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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    You seem to be missing the "C" shaped weights which are used to form a loop of 35mm film. The film is attached at both ends to the top and then weighted by the clamp which only contacts the base side of the film. The film should be wiped with a very dry but damp sponge before placing in the cabinet to prevent contact marks at the end of the loop.

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    Ron thanks for the intel!! Are these weights and clamps outta my league to make myself? I am ok with tools, no arch welding or German metalcraft skills though

    I can't seem to find a decent image of one'a these cabinets with the weights/clamps to even visualize what you describe....should I do as Matt suggests below and call it a day?

    I might send an email to Kindermann too, worth a shot

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    Waste frame 15, 16, 17, or 18 on each film you shoot (depending on how you sleeve your negatives).

    Cut each film in half for drying through the wasted frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsas View Post
    Are these weights and clamps outta my league to make myself? I am ok with tools, no arch welding or German metalcraft skills though
    Even with two American left hands one should be able to do it...

    Get your self/have cut pieces of plastic tubing about 40mm long.
    Bend pieces of wire (eg. electrical wire) to a kind of triangular loop taking a weight (eg. large nut)
    Insert the loop into the tube so that the tube rests at one leg of that triangle.

    Take your wet type 135 film still in the rinse container, fit one clamp to one end, hang that clamp at the dryer, wipe the film from above to the other end, insert the free end into the loop of the weight, emulsion out, fit the other clamp and hang it in the dryer too.


    Voila!


    In case you fear scratches on the film base you might even cover the tubes with textile or velvet tape. (Watch for migrating adhesive in case of very hot drying.)




    (Kindermann have abolished the lab part of their business years ago.)
    Last edited by AgX; 06-30-2013 at 05:44 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    AgX - Wow thanks a bunch for your description; however, geometry is not my best (probably why I got into programming), anyway, I'm having trouble visualizing what you say. Are these tube-triangle-loops secured to the inside of the cabinet?

    Are these the materials you describe?


    Is this it??


    I thank you for your help thus far!
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    Are these tube-triangle-loops secured to the inside of the cabinet?
    No. (At least not if the cabin is long enough to take half the lenght of type 135)

    The tube (one per film) is to make contact between weight and film. The tube may even act as weight itself, but then still the loop with another weight is necessary to hold the tube nicely in oosition.

    Thus you have one tube located as in lowest position in your sketch, but with the triangle facing downwards, to the bottom of the dryer. In that angle of that triangle should sit the weight. It strectches the film and keeps the roll from turning over.


    In case the cabin should not be long enough for such, then the film indeed must be hung in zig-zag, as festoon using three tubes. Quite some hassle, and then the problem would come up of the tube acting as hang-up hook for the film to touch the emulsion side... A kind of undercut tube must be used at that position.
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    X YES


    I would shorten that tube a bit.

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    Wooooohoooooo!!!!! APUG to the rescue again!
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    How would that avoid having a strange drying mark where the tube contacts the film??

    I know PE said that's basically how the product was initially sold and that you are supposed to have it wipe-dry, but still.... the film contains moisture....
    Develop, stop, fix.... wait.... where's my film?

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    Will do re shorten tube, btw, the tube was from one of my kid's toys, he wants it back, plus his St. Louis souvenir (aka weight)
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    I will pick up some fabric tape or silk to coat the tube like AgX suggests, I wonder if the drying mark will not appear?

    Ohhhh Ron, I've just the piece of equipment to sponge dry the film:

    Andy

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