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    D5XL Negative stage . . .the Holy Grail

    Mine is bent, and has been bent since I bought the enlarger some years ago. Through shimmying and jimmying, I got it acceptably flat to accept the neg carrier . . .on and off over the years I have searched for a new part. I've been to every boneyard on the web. This is not a common R&R part. I cannot imagine what circumstances were involved in bending what seems to be a pretty sturdy piece of metal, with no apparent damage to the rest of the enlarger.

    Anyway, soon I will be building a new darkroom in a dedicated room in a new house, and I don't want anything to be mickey-mouse about it. A warped negative stage is definitely mickey-mouse.

    Any ideas on options? Sheet metal shop, maybe replicate it? Machine shop, try to hammer it back to level? Forget about the whole deal and switch to photograms? Happy to hear any ideas that don't involve tape or silicon putty.

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    The D5-XL shares the same negative stage with the D5 and the Super D6 Prolab, so it may pay to look for used versions of those enlargers as well.

    Does KHB have any suggestions: http://www.khbphotografix.com/omega/
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    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

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    How about going to adorama and getting a new one, a negative stage not enlarger
    http://www.adorama.com/searchsite/de...fo=omega+d5-xl ; you might also find some on ebay. The hammer won't work a machine shop might

    Good luck

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    I think your best bet is to be patient and look for a used one that may not even be complete, but has a good negative stage. Combine the best parts of the two into one good machine.
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    I've been looking on and off since 2003. I'm going to take it off and show it to the sheet metal guys who did some SS countertops, can't imagine they couldn't duplicate this.

    Goes without saying, as soon as I have one made by hand, next day my neighbor will have a garage sale and it will turn out he has a D5 buried under all the garbage.

    Ebay is no good, everybody either refuses to ship or refuses to part out. A D5XL came up for sale locally, first one I have ever seen, but they want $500. All I need is that square piece of metal.

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    Without pictures it is hard to know, but why can't it be bent back to correct shape? Also, stuff like this in the picture shows up on ebay all the time. Is the part you need in these parts?
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    You could get Alistair Inglis's (http://www.alistairinglis.com/carriers/) Omega carrier to enlarger registration plate. This has pins installed to allow the negative holders to be removed and installed in the same place. It's very useful for masking work. It also mounts above the existing plate, so if it's a little bent it won't matter.

    I have one that I am going to be selling. If you want it I'll part with it for $75. If you are local I can sell you a whole D5XL for not much money. I'm in NH. Where are you located?

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    I've also heard of a product called neg-align that might be useful:
    http://www.zig-align.com/zig-align/neg-align.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Ullsmith View Post
    I've been looking on and off since 2003. ...

    Goes without saying, as soon as I have one made by hand, next day my neighbor will have a garage sale and it will turn out he has a D5 buried under all the garbage.

    A D5XL came up for sale locally, first one I have ever seen, but they want $500.
    Where are you? I have a D5XL with a dicro II head, a turret, and all the neg carriers (eleven of them) and lens mounts one would ever need and I cannot hardly give the thing away in a metro area of six million people.

    Seriously, I am not saying you need to buy mine, but in ten years, I could have found you 15-20 for anywhere from $50 to free. And, yes, some people want $500 for them, but they don't sell. You are going to go to a lot of trouble, and just as much expense to try and repair the thing as just getting another chassis - if not a whole enlarger. Just my opinion ...
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    That ebay basket case is $300 plus shipping. I'm in NW WA. Yes, there is a perfectly good D5XL for sale nearby, and has been for sale for $450.

    Mr. Gebhart, I am not sure what device you have there, but how am I to properly align the whole enlarger with a bent negative stage?

    In any event, I'm probably a year away from building out the room so there is some time for something to fall in my lap.

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