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    Dusting Negs: Cloth or Brush???

    Yesterday I went to the local photo shop to buy some paper and chemicals. I was also looking for a 'Staticmaster' brush; it was recommended in an article on dust control by Tom Halfhill.

    The salesman said he had never heard of a Staticmaster brush and only had Ilford static cloths. When I said that my readings had led me to believe that wiping negs with a cloth was a bad idea, and that a brush was the way to go, he looked at me like I was an idiot and said that he would never use a brush for negatives, only a cloth.

    So, what is the opinion out there?

    Kent
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    Max,

    the guy is an idiot. Find another store quick. Staticmasters are the standard of the industry. He doesnt have one so he cant sell you one but he is trying to sell you a cloth. I have a cloth too. I used it to wipe the glass negative carriers on my Durst 138s.

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    I agree with lee never trust a salesman who does not have the product you have asked for(me I use a modified asma air pump and use a shot of air.

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    the brush and compressed air are the trick.

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    www.kinetronics.com (click on "photo products") works for me. When I switched to a glass negative carrier and using masks dust became a HUGE issue. Now I lay my carrier on a Tiger Cloth when changing negatives, and use a 4x5 sized Ministat (double brush gizmo) on all negatives and masks...dust is no longer a problem. They also make anti static gloves.

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    My own experience has lead me to conclude that the staticmaster brushes are no better than an untreated brush. I have been buying makeup brushes from Walgreens that are sort of like an oversized lickstick tube with a cover on one end that the brush retracts inside of. For wiping negatives and glass I have been using a micro-fiber cloth. Although I have not used them I am of the opinion that the electrically charged brushes that Kodak used to be make and which were sold by and may still be available from Calumet as a Zone VI product may have been useful. I have yet to use a Kodak product that did not work well. I also believe that the One-Pass roller/paper system would work well since it has its origins in clean room technology.

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    I really prefer a blast of air, but I don't have either an air pump or a cylinder in my darkroom, and I have a philosophical issue with paying money for air. So I have defaulted to a brush.

    My brush is a Staticmaster - but I've had it so long that the ionization function has died of old age. Frankly, I can't say that I noticed that its performance deteriorated as the radioactive element exceeded it's half life. I keep it in the original box, and I only use it for negatives, and I suspect that discipline has helped keep it clean over the years.

    Incidentally, while a blast of air is the best approach, it is critical that the air be dry and oil-free. Ordinary compressors, including those at the gas station, can put both water and oil into the compressed air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MurrayMinchin
    Now I lay my carrier on a Tiger Cloth when changing negatives
    That Kinetronics Tiger cloth looks EXACTLY like my Ilford antistatic cloth.

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    Kent,

    When I first started in this game, some 35 years ago, some one show me how well a small sable paint brush worked. A nice size number 3 or 4 round just does the job. Some years later when I started teaching one of may student kept getting all sorts of scratches on his negatives. They showed me the neg/static cloth they used and how they used it. All my advanced student end up changing to a simple brush paint/watercolor, static master to much money, a soft make-up brush just fine, or the Kinetronics big or small. Just remember to keep them clean and free from dirt or oils.

    Jan Pietrzak

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    I've only ever used...

    ...a blower brush.
    The only exception to this was when I mis~handled a neg and got a nasty fingerprint on it-then I used the cotton glove(which I should have used to handle the neg :rolleyes: ).
    A common mistake people made when designing something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

    Computers are incredibly stupid,but they are capable of being incredibly stupid many millions of times a second.

    Both said by Doug Adams

    Only put off until tomorrow that which you are prepared to die having not done-Pablo Picasso

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