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    Looking to build a glass carrier

    hey all,

    Well, after unsuccessfully using my school's glass negative carriers to enlarge 4x5 negs, I've come to a stalemate.

    I'm getting newton rings no matter what I do. I'm sick of it.

    So, basically, I've decided to buck up and get some ANR glass, and sandwich the negs in it. I really would like to print 'full frame' from my 4x5 negs, so I get the whole rebate area, so I was planning on building a carrier with a glass size of 4.75"x5.75".

    I was planning on trying to mill out some sheet aluminum 3/16 or 1/4" and make it nice, with a matte black finish and all, but I was thinking of just some heavy black matte board too.

    someone(s) on here must have done this, and if you have pictures, could you share?

    help would be appreciated.


    thanks

    Dan


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    hope this helps

    I Use a Self made glass carrier with good results . It is for my 120 negs in a Bessler 23c VC Enlarger. I do not use anti Newton Glass And have had no problems until very recently.(I was actually wondering what newton rings looked like...... I was better off not knowing!) Have had some show up with T-max 100. AM going to replace the top glass with Anti Newton Glass & am currently looking for a source.... and am assuming it is just non-glare glass??? but have had some trouble verifying.
    Anyway my carrier isn’t anything real pretty. Basically 2 pieces of glass bottom one masked off (slightly larger Than 6x7 to print border i.e. rebate) With registration pins for making masks and the such.
    I was stewing around in my head trying to come up with something fancy( trying to make metal and glass carrier) and settled on simplicity. This is basically exactly how Lynn Radeka’s Contrast Masking Kit explains how to make one. The only thing I did different was to add guides to my enlarger and sand the sides of the glass where they slide in to the metal guides. Everything works good (at least up to 16X20 - largest I print). Have made unsharp, SCIM , Dodge masks and others with success. I would have to say The Information in his Kit is Well worth the Money ( Slimt Dev. Mask making, Formula’s and such)
    When I approached making this I Cut the Glass, Put it in the enlarger, removed the lens board and traced the negative stage on the glass, then used this to mask the negative area - making sure the negative fits directly centerd in the lens path.

    Best of Luck -
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    If you need the glass, http://www.fpointinc.com/ can supply it. Plus the owner is on this forum.

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    Dan,I have had a guy that cuts metal make regular two piece carriers with good success but the glass carriers are far more complicated an costly.I like Koller 1 way of making them,also there is a place in Newport Bch that makes anti newton glass. nqw@newportglass.com is there web site,have not used them but they are closer.I have there telephone number if you need it

    Mike
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    What kind of enlarger? I made a nice glass carrier just by taping two pieces of glass together.

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    thanks for the replies guys. the enlargers I'm using both use Beseler or Omega neg carriers. I think somethink in the neighborhood of 7-8" square should work.

    does the bottom glass thickness affect overall sharpness of the image? should I get good quality (say STARPHIRE(cause I do color work as well, and I want this to be universal)) glass but what thickness? 1/8, 3/16?

    -Dan


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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielStone View Post
    ......I was planning on trying to mill out some sheet aluminum 3/16 or 1/4" and make it nice, with a matte black finish and all, but I was thinking of just some heavy black matte board too......
    I designed one like that for a Zone VI enlarger, and it was a big disappointment. The best and easiest to use carriers have some type of frame around each piece of glass. Just look at the Durst and Beseler glass carriers.

    I think your best bet would be to buy a Beseler 4x5 glass carrier and modify it. Adjust the hinge or file the opening larger to accept larger glass. The basic design of the Beseler carrier is hard to beat.

    I noted on Alistair Inglis' site that he modifies Beseler carriers for his precision masking carriers.

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    what about just taking two pieces of say 1/4(top) and 1/8(bottom) glass and sandwiching them? using a tape hinge? low budget, but effective?


    of course using black gaffers(or paper tape, something thinner than the neg, or just marking with a scratch on each corner, for relative positioning?

    -dan


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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielStone View Post
    what about just taking two pieces of say 1/4(top) and 1/8(bottom) glass and sandwiching them? using a tape hinge? low budget, but effective?.......
    That will work! Just be sure to tape the entire perimeter of each glass, or light will exit through the glass edges and possibly add some fog to the print.

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    I'll be making a trip back to my glazier tomorrow after class to order some!

    thanks guys!!!


    i'll let you all know how things turn out!

    -Dan


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