Question about Meopta enlarger
i have a few questions regarding Meopta Opemus 7 Color 3 enlarger.
Currently,i'm using the LPL 3301D,the entry type enlarger,but after a few months using it,i'm thinking of upgrading the enlarger to medium format size
to print b&w photo(6x6).last week,my friend offer me this Meopta enlarger.
my question is:-
1)will this enlarger suitable for b&w printing?does it have the filter drawer like the condenser type?
2)and do i still need the filter,because it already have the filter(for the colour printing)?
3)i read somewhere on the internet saying that diffuser enlarger print is not as good/sharp as the condenser enlarger,is it true?
4)what is the pro and cons of using the colour enlarger for b&w printing?
anybody have the manual for this enlarger?
this help me to consider it.
By mine experience in darkroom, and using Meopta Opemus 5 and Meopta Magnifax 4 both with colour and b/w heads:
1) Yor enlarger is Opemus 7 with Colur3 colour head. Colour head doesn't have filter drawer. your solutions are next:
a) To use enlarger with colour head it already has and use magenta/yellow dials of colour head to work with b/w multicontrast papers.
b) To use enlarger with colour head it already has and use below the lens filters for multicontrast papers. In that case you use only "white"
(magenta/yellow/cyan filters of colour head are set to value "0")
c) Tu buy b/w head for Opemus 7 and put it instead of Colour 3 head. That head has filter drawer.
More about Meopta Opemus 7 enlarger and accessories you can find at: http://www.meopta.com/index.php?id=307
2) No, you don't need additional filters if you plan to use magenta/yellow dials of Colou3 head you already have on enlarger.
3) Sharpness is not problem, both duffuser and condenser heads can give good sharpness. Diffuse heads can give less contrast and condesed heads more contrast. That means if you like your prints to be contrasty or you work with negatives which doesn't have enough contrast you can be better with condensed head and f you like less contrast and working with very contrasty negatives you can be better with diffuser head.
4) There are no real differences, and main differences are: In some cases you can not get grade you need for your paper. For example, you need grade 5 for your print and your colour head can give only grade 4 on paper you use (for example your head has filter dial with values of 0 to 200 and for grade 5 you need value of 250). One the other hand (but only in theory as I don't know anyone who is able to do that) you can get for example grade 3,72 or 0.17 or 4,42 on colour head and with filters for b/w head you can get full or at best half grades (0; 0,5; 1,5; 2 up to grade 5). Colour heads are diffusing heads and that can give less contrast, and b/w heads can give more contrast. (see point 4)). For b/w heads you need to buy additional filters, with colour head you already have filters. It is easier to find replacement halogen bulb for colour head than photo bulb for b/w head (those bulbs can be bought for example at www.fotoimpex.de in Berlin). Next, with colour head you need mixing chambers of different sizes for different lenses/negative sizes you use with enlarger, and with b/w condensed head you need different condensers for different lenses/negative sizes. For colour head you need transformer (as it usually work with 12V halogen bulb so you need to reduce electric current from your household current (230 or 110V depending on where you live) to 12V), and b/w heads usually works with household current bulbs so you don't need transformer.
Manual try to find at: http://www.meopta.com/index.php?id=166
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1 It's a colour enlarger so fine for B&W
Originally Posted by joe7
2 As the filters are already built in no extra filers are needed
3 A diffuser enlarger is just as good for B&W or colour and is less prone to showing up scratches and particularly dust on negatives.
4 The re really are only mainly Pro's in using a colour enlarger for B&W, although for specialist use sometimes a condenser enlarger has slight advantages.
Using a colour enlarger gives a far more even light source, fast changing of grades via dial filtration, less prone to show dust etc.
Ovo je pitanje za Harisa.
Ima neka šansa da stavim koju drugo lečo (objektiv) na Meopta Opemus 5. Mislim na rodenstock.
Hvala i izvini na gramatiko.
I'm in complete agreement with Ian on this one. Once I started using a color head for B&W work, I never looked back. Sharpness is not an issue. The lens forms the image, not the condensers. There is a small difference in the way the two light sources render local contrast, with the condenser type light source emphasizing the boundary between light and dark tones a little more distinctly. The effect is usually quite subtle, and I've never found it to be of any real advantage. Small scratches on the support side of the negative simply don't show up on the print. Same thing for small dust, and even the larger bits that do show up do so with softer edges making spotting a bit easier. Contrast control can be a bit of a challenge, but once you dial in the settings for the paper you're using, it's easy. The tricky part is figuring out the amount of exposure compensation needed when changing settings. There is a way to keep the exposure constant, but I've found it easier to just make a chart detailing the amount of compensation needed for a given setting.
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Haris, Work well done !!
usually, Meopta enlargers are shipped with their own "lens holders" with 23.5mm lens mounting thread. It's different than usual "old" Schneider mount with 25mm. So you need to use their Belar or Anaret lenses with same mount or you need to find accessory lens holder with M39mm mount. Lens holder (mount) is so simple that it can be easily machined. Meopta had excellent line of Meogon 50mm and 80mm lenses witch are of very high quality. Anaret and Belar's are OK to especially if you are not doing anything bigger than 8x10" or 18x24cm. Recently I tested my "collection" of 80mm enlarging lenses and Meogon 4/80mm was in par with Rodagon 4/80 and Componon S 4/80. Anaret 4.5/75mm was very good in centre but was soft in the corners at f8
All the best!
Goran, Vancouver, Canada
And now same answer in our former country, Yugoslavia, (common) language
Vrlo dobar odgovor Harise!!
Problem sa meopta aparatima za povecavanje je da su obicno prodavani sa njihovim standardnim nosacem objekiva koji je u precniku 23.5mm, koji je razlicit od starog i uobicajnog Schneider M25mm navoja!.
Meopta je imala dodatni drzac objetiva sa navojem M39. Nisam siguran da li se on moze sada kupiti.
Dobra vest je da je njegova konstrukcija toliko jednostavna da bilo ko sa strugom moze da ga napravi.
Meopta je imala seriju visoko kvalitetnih objektiva Meogon 2.8/50 i 4/80mm.
Meopta Anaret i Belar su u redu ako ne radis povecavanja veca od 18x24cm.
Skoro sam uradio test mojih objektiva za povecavanje i Meogon je bio potpuno na nivou Rodagona i Componona S 4/80mm.
Anaret 4.5/75mm je bio odlican u centru ali je bio "mekan" u coskovima.
Goran, Vankuver, Canada
Hvala na odgovor. Znam za ovaj objektiv, ali je problem da ga nema nigdje kod nas (Beč,Trst,Klagenfurt,eBay...). Možda znaš za koji komad?
Dejan, Ljublajana, Slovenia
Koliko je bolji Durst mt305 od Opemus 5. Dali se splati investicija u menjavo hardwara.
Dejane, jedna od pozitivnih strana digitalne revolucije je da se klasicna laboratoriska oprema moze kupiti jako, jako jevtino. Bilo koji od vrhunskih objektiva za povecavanje: Rodagon, Componon S ili El Nikkor mogu se kupiti izmedju 20 i 50$ u savrsenom stanju. Ponuda je daleko veca od traznje! Pozitivna strana pravljenja "kolekcije" objektiva za povecavanje je da se lako mogu koristiti na vecini apatrata za povecavanje
Durst je definitivno bolji od Meopte ali bi ti savetovao da ako vec kupujes Durst, kupis model koji moze da se koristi za povecavanje 35mm negativa kao i negativa srednjeg formata (6x6;6x7 ili 6x9cm).
Ako ih kupujes polevne pazi da budu opremeljeni sa svom dodatnom opremom (color head, negativ maske, nosaci objektiva).
To je sve OK. Ali problem je u tome, što mi jedan prodaje DRUST-a za 200eur. Znam da je bolji, ali ja sam komplet Meopto+sav pribor + JOBO arzenal dobijo za 100eur. To mi je sad pitanje, dali je DRUST vredan dodatnih 100eur. Malo mi je to na APUG (i kod nas) čudno, kad čitam diskusije recimo o Leica m4 vs Bessa r4. Ja sam imao priliko fotkat sa Leica m4, plaubel makino 67, itn a sam imam nekoliko Voigtländera.
I moje mišljenje je da Leica nije toliko bolja, koliko je skuplja(pa mislim da i ni bolja). Ma da iskreno kažem me je najbolje nadivijo OLY XA eur/kvaliteta. Dobro nije to više tema. Kako je u Vancuveru? Je gotova kriza u bauštelbiznisu. Ovdje polako sve ide u ....
Cura mi več nekoliko vremena galami da idemo u Vancuver, neznam zašto je tako navalila baš na Vancuver. Moguče idemo kraj ove godine, pa čemo tada popit pivo, i ja ču nabavit Meogon 2.8/50 .