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    Don

    That's excellent advise. Thanks for sharing.
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    Don

    That's excellent advise. Thanks for sharing.
    Ralph,

    Does your darkroom hot water supply run off large tank (say 250L) or a smaller in-situ model, e.g. 50L or 15L?

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    I'm using the one that supplies the entire house. It has a capacity of 120 Liters. My only problem was people using cold water somewhere else in the house (flushing the toilet), which made the water temperature in the darkroom move up rapidly. This is now fixed by controlling the water temperature in the darkroom via an Intellifaucet. This water controller is the best thing I've ever bought for the darkroom. Set the temperature and forget about it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphLambrecht View Post
    Tom

    I'm using the one that supplies the entire house. It has a capacity of 120 Liters. My only problem was people using cold water somewhere else in the house (flushing the toilet), which made the water temperature in the darkroom move up rapidly. This is now fixed by controlling the water temperature in the darkroom via an Intellifaucet. This water controller is the best thing I've ever bought for the darkroom. Set the temperature and forget about it!
    I have the basic Intellifaucet model which indeed is a huge convenience; however, no hot water as the tank isn't supported anymore by the manufacturer and the element has gone so will need to investigate other options. One of the 15L 3kW units is attractive as the installation can be rather less involved, although in "winter" (October to May) I'm not sure whether the 15L capacity and reheat time will be sufficient for washing fibre base papers @ 20ºC. I'll have to try and find my calculations.


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    I once hear of a couple who bought a new house and when they flushed the toilet it was steaming, someone hooked it up to the hot water line. Good thing they didn't have a bidet.
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    Don

    That's excellent advise. Thanks for sharing.
    It was a bit long winded but thanks!
    Don Bryant

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    There are (or were) low flow tankless heaters back in the early 90s, I had one. No memory of what brand. We had a low flow shower head that wouldn't have worked with the standard flow tankless heaters- I suppose unpleasant equals short showers, and thus a lot of savings.

    I'm currently getting hot water from an old propane hot water heater that serves the whole house. Water is pre-heated in winter by our geo-thermal forced hot air system. Mixing valve keeps temps consistent.

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    So what I'm hearing is, a separate electric tank for the darkroom. I had no clue that there could be a worse system for obtaining consistent 70f than the old tank, until this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Ullsmith View Post
    So what I'm hearing is, a separate electric tank for the darkroom. I had no clue that there could be a worse system for obtaining consistent 70f than the old tank, until this.
    It doesn't have to be electric, but having a tank definitely helps.
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    The reason I recommend electric tanks is the relative ease of installation. Its easier to run wire than gas lines to existing structures, not to mention much cheaper.
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