finally... the time has come!
Received my Mod Proessor yesterday and had the chance to try it out.
All in all, I'm glad I bought it, but my maiden voyage did not go as smoothly as some report.
First impression however, is that the unit is a tad flimsy. It feels surprisingly fragile and I just don't have faith that it would survive being dropped on a hard floor. Indeed, the instruction card says "Do Not Drop". Even holding it in my hand, I think I could break it if I squeezed too hard.
Now, I hope that Morgan, or anyone else, doesn't take this the wrong way; I feel that products only get better if people are critical of them. The MOD processor fills a need that no other unit does, and for that alone it's worth having.
2nd Issue: I continually had one piece of film that would "jump the tracks" and become contacted with its neighbor. Now, the reason I know this is because I was reversal processing and after the bleach could safely take the film out and inspect it. It was the innermost film on one side, and 1 or 2 of it's "points of contact with the processor" (know what I mean?) would come "unhitched" and it would go into the middle film's tracks. I probably reset it 3 times and yet it continued to do this. This was very disconcerting, but oddly enough, wasn't detrimental to the processing.
Has anyone else had a similar problem? I did a bit of spin-agitation with the spinner stick and also inversion agitation. I can't say if one or the other was responsible for this problem though. The instructions do suggest "gentle agitation" and the inversion, despite how calmly you do it, seems less than gentle simply because there's a liter of liquid sloshing around in there.
(and, FYI to those who know what I'm talking about, my screen-plate positive was not one of the sheets sticking... see RGB-screens thread)
Thanks for taking the time to give an honest opinion of my processor.
Firstly i like to say that this unit was built out of necessity. I have an editorial shoot tomorrow which i'll be shooting 60-80 sheets, to process that would cost between £300 - £400, approx $480- $645. The cost savings by doing this with my processor are huge, its mainly a question of how much you judge you time to be. My assistant and I can knock out about 30 sheets an hour, which means i can return contacts to a client the next day.
The processor is made of Acrylic, which is a brittle material, and if cold it can break when dropped, unfortunately at the moment this is the most affordable way to manufacture the unit. I will accommodate any one who has this problem, its not some sort of scam to sell more processors.
The issue of the sheets moving during developing did occur in the beginning, i think its a combination of factors. To start you have to really make sure the sheets are loaded correctly, it becomes much easier the more you do it, and being very gentle with the agitation. The inversion should be very slow and consistent, and the emptying of chemicals the same. some times i forget i'm doing sheets not roll film and get a bit carried away. Its is a paterson tank, but not with roll film in it.
I hope that helps in some respect.
It's a positive to see the inventor.seller participating on the forum- I'm still thinking about this (using other system), and knowing someone cares is an important factor when it comes time to make a decision.
Thanks much for your response. I hope I didn't seem too harsh by saying "flimsy". Treated appropriately I'm sure I'll have no problems with it. If a more sturdy & flexible material could be used in the future, that would be awesome, though keeping it translucent is important for reversal processing. This proccesor is great at RPing.
As for the problem I was experiencing, I had another chance to test it when I was fixing/clearing some sheets of 4x5" for an alt. process. Again, I found that the innermost sheet on one side was bowing enough that it stuck to its neighboring sheet. It did not however, "jump the tracks" like last time.
I did my best to agitate exactly like you demonstrate in your video, and although it occurred after my initial fixing cylce (10 minutes, 3-4 inversions every 30 seconds or so), I couldn't get the problem to occur again reliably, using water as a test liquid.
Since I loaded the sheets in light, I was sure that they were correctly loaded. I'm now convinced that spin agitation would be a safe method, but I'm also not sure if that's ideal for development. However, emphasizing gentle inversion might be the simplest solution.
Lastly... it occurred to me that ridges or teeth at the "roof" and "floor" of the two outside "plates" might alleviate this problem.
At any rate, thanks again. Communicating with the inventor of a product is a rare and welcome opportunity these days, and for that I am very grateful.
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I'll concur that manufacturing out of extruded plastic would drive the cost up significantly for small production runs. I checked on making one like that several years ago based on the Phototherm molds, and to get the cost down to the prices Morgan can sell his unit would have required a production run of about 5000 units. Which would have meant 4800 units would probably wind up in the scrap heap when I die. Making a run of only 500 units would have put the price at several hundred dollars each. No one would pay that much.
Originally Posted by MOD_Photographic
I think that's the beauty of Morgan's device, it does a good job of balancing costs against convenience in a device that can be manufactured in quantities that the LF market can support.
Sure you could do better with an unlimited budget, but if we all had unlimited budgets we'd probably all have our own personal N2 burst line.
+1 wise words
Originally Posted by michaelbsc
I just processed 60 sheets today and had no problems, no jumping or touching. That was 320 tri-x in R09 (Rodinal equiv.) 1+25 20 Degrees 8.5 mins, inverting 1/min.
What film are you using and what chemicals? Would be interesting to know.
I'm assuming that your using it in the Paterson tank and have the black inner tube in?
I've made a new video to update my technique and did a test showing it. I'll post it later.
HC-110 B, TXP320 (what are the odds?) and Delta 100. It was a mixed bag, to test reversal speeds. Developed for about 12 minutes; agitation might've been excessive.
And yes, the tube was in.
I look forward to the video, and I have a feeling that my inversions were just a bit too "he-man". I'll be sure to report back though.
So i did this little video to demonstrate how i use the processor, a bit of an update on the last vid. It also shows what happens if you really give it a good shake.
Hope it helps,
Let me know,