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    MOD 5x4" Process Insert- Is it just me or...

    ... or has the world gone mad? From http://www.silverprint.co.uk/:

    "Why no-one thought of it before is a mystery, but at last it's here - an inexpensive 5 x 4" insert for a standard Paterson Multi-Reel 3 tank. The MOD insert allows you to process up to 6 sheets of 5 x 4" film simultaneously using your normal processing technique."

    "Inexpensive"? That's 45 GBP for a piece of plastic! Nice idea alright and probably nice plastic as well, but 50 euros, jeez...

    I must have lost touch with the real world

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    It is in all probability an item that sells in small quantities, so I guess the manufactoring costs are quite high. Which probably reflects on the price. They seem very nifty and I suppose a good tool that makes life easier is invaluable.
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    There's been a long thread here on APUG about these holders in which the manufacturer has participated, they#ve been arounf for a while now.

    When discussing prices remember first they have to be made and assembled, shipped to Silverprint and manufacturing costs as well as a profit made by both parties factored in as well. That price aslo includes the 20% VAT as well.

    Now look at film prices these days . . . . . .

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    Compare the price with the price of JOBO 4x5 reels.
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    They're pricey, but there's nothing else like them really. Compare prices to a Nikkor 4x5" reel... yikes.

    I have one and I use it now for all my 4x5" stuff. It works very well, though your agitation needs to be extremely gentle in my experience. I've gotten some sticking of sheets which could be fixed by adding little ridges at the top and bottom of the end plates, but I digress...

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    Obviously the reason that I'm upset is that I would really like have one. And this thread is to get myself convinced that the thing *is* worth the money. You guys helped me quite a bit already, thanks!

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    Silverprint will want 25%. Probably 1/2 the remaining $37 goes to recoup tooling costs and interest on capital expenditure. Leaving $14 for manufacturing, advertising, overhead, and finally $0.25 for profit.

    If product sales were in the 100,000's/year the same insert would sell for $5 at Walmart.

    Been there, done that.
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    Many people already have the patterson tanks (I have three) sitting around, so basically trays are the only thing cheaper.

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    Hello !
    One thing nobody talks about : when buying plastic, one buy oil. And oil prices are not going down.... Plastic is becoming very expensive these days.

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    Plastic is still the tiniest portion of the cost of manufacture though. The problem is that they're made in tiny quantities (probably assembled by hand from laser-cut pieces) with significant overheads and then resold.

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