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    Sinars are a fantastic bargain these days for anyone interested in a monorail, and there are lots of accessories.
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    Yes indeed. I paid full price for my 4x5 f2 25 years ago. Still a bargain because it's a great tool. Saved me a ton of work and frustration. A joy to use. I went to a seminar with Carl Koch too.

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    Agreed.....my point in wondering about the use of such cameras in the field.

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    Thanks David...for those of us with zero experience with such cameras, might you and the others that use the Sinar P tell me what to look for in order to be certain that I am not thinking of purchasing a less than "perfect" camera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahler_one View Post
    Thanks David...for those of us with zero experience with such cameras, might you and the others that use the Sinar P tell me what to look for in order to be certain that I am not thinking of purchasing a less than "perfect" camera?
    Assume the camera will be less than perfect. Parts are still easily obtained from Sinar. If it's perfect, consider it good luck.

    Old Sinars tend to have dry spirit levels. Such great quality overall, but this part they never seem to have gotten right, considering I've seen much older cameras with spirit levels that have remained sealed. Figure you'll just have to replace the dry ones. The levels are adjustable, so you'll want an accurate level to be sure the cameras levels are level.

    The gearing is usually nylon, but there is an option of brass gearing on the rise/fall movement, and if you see one with brass gear tracks, that would be a plus. Nylon would be the norm. If you notice missing teeth or excessive play in any of the geared movements, that will lower the value a bit, but recognize that you can replace the gear tracks fairly easily. There is also a rubber ring in the standard bearer (I'm doing this from memory and don't have the camera right in front of me at the moment) that needs to be replaced periodically. If it's worn, the standard will be wobbly. If the ring is black, it is of more recent vintage.

    Bear in mind the Sinar P you find for $800-1500 is from Sinar's perspective something like a $6000 camera, so the replacement parts aren't cheap, but it's a joy to use.

    Also remember the P is the studio camera, the F is the field camera.
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    Great information, and a sincere thanks for taking the time to respond in depth David.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoonmaniac View Post
    Thanks Chris. I thought the same thing. Back in the early 90's when I assisted in commercial studios, LF Polaroids and LF chrome film flowed like water. I stopped shooting commercially years ago, but my Sinar F still serves me well for occasional personal work. I can't shoot LF chromes anymore because there's no labs that process in the Sacramento area anymore
    There are no pro E-6 labs in all of Indiana, that I know of! I send my film to New Mexico for developing.
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    I started sending film to A&I in LA a few years back. They stopped E6 processing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markbarendt View Post
    I have used my CC-400 series in the field too, albeit not to far from the car, mostly inside a 1-mile. I just bought a Toyo 45A (that should arrive next week, yea). I don't know if my range from the car will change much but the new camera will fit in the wife's Miata, the old one won't.

    Mono-rail cameras do have certain advantages with regard to movements, setup, and rigidity. even their cases are handy. In my Eurovan the CC-400 case provides a nice catch all for all the "necessary" bits we all seem to drag around; filters, film holders, dark bag, ...

    Typically as I get out of the car the camera gets locked onto the tripod head ready to use and carried from there as a unit so weight isn't really a difference. In this mode physical size isn't much different either.
    Hey Mark, it's John, you will be able to go far with the 45A. I haven't been on here in a while. Thought i would cruise through the forum and spotted your response and mention of your 45A. Talk to you soon.

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    Other candidates

    You may wish to consider a Linhof Technikardan 45 or 23 or the Color Kardan. The 23 is particularly interesting if you're thinking of going digital. Both the Technikardan and the Color K compress to very compact packages. They are relatively inexpensive on the used market compared to Sinars and a lot more rugged. Happy shooting and don't forget a tripod with a geared head siting atop a Bogen leveling head.

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