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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    I would pass on the 3 1/4" x 4 1/4". I have the 4"x5" and love it.
    I agree, pass on this one... as difficult as that may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemuir View Post
    I agree, pass on this one... as difficult as that may be.

    I think Im going to pass on it, unfortunately.

    But this s why I love this forum! I learned a bit today, and saved $350 because of the knowledge that wass shared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Or in that case, buy a MF camera and not deal with the bulk. I still fail to see a winning case for using a LF camera for 120 film.
    I know how difficult that is to understand because it iis very difficult to explain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Or in that case, buy a MF camera and not deal with the bulk. I still fail to see a winning case for using a LF camera for 120 film.
    not really hard to explain .. or understand

    i didn't have a mf camera to shoot mf film ...
    i sold my yashica mat125D in 1990, and have had 2 roll backs ( 22+23 )
    for pc work with a rail camera ...
    eventually i bought a mamiya but when i stopped being able to use a mamiya 6iv for roll film when it got damaged ...
    i decided to start using something more portable than a speed graphic or toyo view camera,
    and never really stopped. LOL no need to be a camera snob.
    they make roll film backs for a reason, to use them on a LF camera ...
    i've had and used the series d since about 1996 and have bought and used cheap brass lenses since about then
    ( not so cheap anymore, thanks jim ! )
    it seemed like a no brainer.
    graflex slr's IMHO are the best non PC camera + portrait camera made ( except for a gowland )
    i can't see any problem using them with roll film
    i used to have a 35mm recomar back to use with it too, but sold it when i was low on $$, not too often one uses a RR lens with 35mm film ) ...

    i'd rather use a 3x4 graflex than most mf camera systems, perfectly weighted ...
    i have and use a rollie from time to time, and i really don't like how small it is ...
    a graflex has heft, and can use pretty much anything that light will go through as a lens ...
    graflex is more of a winner of a camera than any rollei ... and i wouldn't waste my money on a hassy, or a bronica ...

    not really sure why that is hard to understand ...
    but then again, i've been coating glass plates, and making my own emulsions since the 1980s
    and buying brass lenses since 1990,
    and people didn't really get it untill 10 -20+ years later

    oh well ... YMMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Or in that case, buy a MF camera and not deal with the bulk. I still fail to see a winning case for using a LF camera for 120 film.
    I use the 6x7 rollfilm back on 4x5 all the time. I've even used it on a 4x5 reducing back on a Deardorff V8, allowing me to use long lenses that will not mount on the Linhof.
    If you want movements on 120, a 4x5 camera and lenses which have a 4x5 image circle can be very useful.

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    I have two Graflex 3x4 cameras, a Series D and an Auto-Graflex. Ilford makes 3x4 film available once a year on their special cut sizes, I have three boxes in my freezer. I also have a 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 graflex rollfilm back. They are available every now and then on ebay. I had two, but sold one to someone on LFF. I agree with others who say that it is a great camera for portraits on 120 film. It looks a lot like my series D, in much better shape. My viewing hood is a masterpiece of gaffer's tape and prayer, but it works.
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    Graflex Series D...

    Quote Originally Posted by mhcfires View Post
    Ilford makes 3x4 film available once a year on their special cut sizes, I have three boxes in my freezer.


    This is news to me.

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    Not worth 350 bucks but a nice camera.
    3x4 is a nice format. You still have to develop processes for getting prints out of it.
    I have a Series B 3x4 and it is a joy to carry and use. It's also one of the cameras Weston used.

    I have a 2.25x3.25 roll film back for it but it hardly ever gets used.

    3x4 Graflex film holders are not that hard to find.

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