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    I use mine constantly and find it indispensable. I processed my 4x5 in a tray until I picked up the Jobo set and have not gone back since. In the beginning I loaded without the base and found it easier to load the outside slots on each side rather than try to use the 3rd, inner slot as well. That meant I could only develop 4 sheets at a time but that seemed to work ok. I picked up a loading base about a year ago and it is now delightfully simple to load the reel and develop the film. I now have two reels and can shoot two loads in my Grafmatic film holders in the morning, load them onto the reels and develop in the afternoon.

    BTW, while theoretically possible to do it in a changing bag, I have done it, it is way easier for me to do it in my second bathroom with the lights out and door seals to keep outside light at bay. For my changing bag days I built a tenting insert made from a cardboard box so that the sides of the bag stayed out of the way. A lot easier that way but still a pain down south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Cole View Post
    It does if I also add the code if the CPA or CPP compared to the CPE I already own!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    I do not think that software will help your problem...
    I'm betting Roger's hand shifted on the keyboard and, instead of "code if" he meant to type "cost of."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    I do not think that software will help your problem. I originally bought a CPA bare of graduates and bottles on APUG for $100. Two weeks later I bought a populated CPP on APUG for $150. I sold the CPA for what I paid for it. YMMV, but no software or reprogramming was involved.
    My first reaction was "huh?" Then I saw the typo - I posted that form my iPhone and autocorrect sometimes does some odd things that I don't catch. It was, of course, a typo for "cost."

    If I see a deal like that, it's mine. So far I have not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    I'm betting Roger's hand shifted on the keyboard and, instead of "code if" he meant to type "cost of."
    Autocorrect frequently changes my "of" to "if" and I almost as often fail to catch it. Friends on Facebook have been warned and almost expect it. And of course you are exactly right - damned autocorrect.

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    Always worked perfect for me, I do use the loader.
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    I use the same setup, without the base/guide, and have no real problems. Since I shoot in studio quite a bit, I don't use a changing bag, just clear off a space in the bathroom to lay out everything. If I'm going out for a day, I'll pre-load and label my backs at home. Takes a little practice to load the reels, and although it will hold 6, I don't load more than 4 sheets on e reel. Loads pretty easy. Here's a You Tube video that may help (it shows the base setup as well) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcfTH0td9oY
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    We have a name for people who use plastic reels, of any size. They are called masochists. I have a 2509 but didn't like it. Didn't like loading it, didn't like the results.

    I use metal reels for all my 120, 127, 135... I use nylon screen tubes inside a System 4 tank for 2x3, 3x4, and 4x5 sheet film and I use Unicolor drums for 5x7 and 8x10 film. Why make your life hard?

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    Jobo 2509 - Universally loathed or is it just me?

    I feel the same way about steel reels - hate 'em and never could get the hang of them. The Jobo plastics are the easiest 35mm and 120 reels to load of any I have used and the 2509n is even easier (granted I have no problem with my SS 4x5 hangers though.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Cole View Post
    I feel the same way about steel reels - hate 'em and never could get the hang of them. The Jobo plastics are the easiest 35mm and 120 reels to load of any I have used and the 2509n is even easier (granted I have no problem with my SS 4x5 hangers though.)
    +1.

    If the 3006 wasn't even easier to load, I'd be more than happy with the 2509ns that I have.

    I really don't understand what the issue is. Perhaps try loading some ULF film in a tent before you claim loading 4x5 is difficult! Maybe embarrassingly large hands makes it easy for me to load the 2509n?

    As for the loading guide? I find them a pain to use, not because they're difficult, but because they offer no discernible benefit. Just something else to scratch the negs in the dark...

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    Well I like the guide but then I've never really tried to load the reels without one, except in daylight and found it difficult with the lights on. But I've never scratched a film with the loading guide. I still like the Jobo design plastic reels.

    For years I had no problems with the 2509n but of late have some unevenennes I am trying to get sorted out. That's a different issue from loading problems, though.

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