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    $250 for a good Crown with 2 lens in working shutters is a fair price as is $150 for the same needing CLA.
    1 inch=25.4millimeters
    2 1/4 x 3 1/4 camera uses 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 sheet film.
    2 1/4=2.25*25.4=57.15mm; 3 1/4=3.25*25.4=82.55mm
    A camera that can use sheet film or roll film is capable of multiple formats.
    Roll film holders made by Graflex were Graphic 22 (6x6), Graphic 23 (6x9), RH12 (6x6), RH10 (6x7), RH8 (6x9), RH20 (6x7 on 220 film), RH50 (70mm film). (the number after the RH is the number of exposures on a roll of film)
    The listing you are asking about has a Graphic 22 roll film holder which produces 12 6x6cm exposures on 120 film.

    6x9 roll film holders have a film gate that is 57mm x 72 to 78mm depending on make and vintage; 6x7 roll film holders film gate is 57mm x 62-68mm; 6x6 roll film holders film gate is 57mm square.
    Last edited by shutterfinger; 09-19-2013 at 02:44 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    You need to decide whether the format's OK for you and remember that you can get a 5x4 Crown Graphic with a lens for about the same price.

    Other roll film backs aren't particularly expensive and a camera capable of 6x7 or 6x9 with some movements is quite useful. I particularly like the 6x9 format but unless you need movements there are less bulky options.

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    some people love smaller format crowns, speeds and graflex slrs, they like'em even more than 4x5
    because they are more compact, easier to hold, cart around and shoot. i guess if you aren't sure if you
    want it because it isn't a 4x5, and you already have smaller format cameras "that size" and you are asking
    people here to talk sense into you because you aren't sure, maybe you should pass, and wait for the format
    you had hoped it would be.

    they ARE fun though ...

    good luck !
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    some people love smaller format crowns, speeds and graflex slrs, they like'em even more than 4x5
    because they are more compact, easier to hold, cart around and shoot. i guess if you aren't sure if you
    want it because it isn't a 4x5, and you already have smaller format cameras "that size" and you are asking
    people here to talk sense into you because you aren't sure, maybe you should pass, and wait for the format
    you had hoped it would be.

    they ARE fun though ...

    good luck
    john
    See. I heard you say "they are fun " and I kinda think they can be!

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    Fine.. I am going to get it. Why not. Its fun and I got 120 film in my fridge ...!

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    If money is an issue, using 120 roll film is easier and much cheaper than 4x5 inch every time you shoot!
    So I would give it a try, IF the shutter, lenses, etc. are in good working order.
    You can't judge that from an image.

    And yes: I think it can be very much FUN shooting with it.
    Last edited by TheToadMen; 09-19-2013 at 07:12 AM. Click to view previous post history.
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    It's a fun camera, and your 645 and TLR have no movements.
    Plus, compared to your 645, the 6x9 negs will look huge

    Beyond that, it's worth the 150. Assuming everything is in good working order, you can sell it for that much easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shutterfinger View Post
    6x9 roll film holders have a film gate that is 57mm x 72 to 78mm depending on make and vintage; 6x7 roll film holders film gate is 57mm x 62-68mm; 6x6 roll film holders film gate is 57mm square.
    Charles, are you sure? Mine measure from 78 mm long to 82 mm long, depending, as you said, on make and vintage.

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    If you are OK with the format - you can buy it and use it; yet I can't see much purpose of a MF view camera with (almost) no movements if there are SLR and advanced range-finder cameras (most, however, for more than $150, some for much more...).
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    Measured with calipers in the frame openings just now
    Singer Graflex RH10 58.0 by 67.7
    Older Graflex RH/8 57.4 by 77.7
    1936 Nettar 56.5 by 85.2

    The RH/10 is for the 2 x 3 Graflex
    The RH/8 is for the 4 x 5 Graflex

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