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    Looking at a Crown Graphic on Craigslist, talk some sense into me.

    I am looking at a crown graphic at craigslist, the owner doesn't know much about the camera, I was able to talk him down to 150 bucks. I was judging only by photos, I had the impression of it being a 4x5, but after more research they made a lot of them in the smaller sizes. And i wouldn't know if its a 4x5 for sure until I see it in person.

    The camera came with 2 lens, first one I cant see its on a grapic" shutter with caps on, the other one is a Schneider Angulon 65mm 6.8 on a synchrocompur, come with a Graphic 22" roll film holder (120 - 6x6cm). < (all things pointing to a 'baby crown')

    Now my question is, if it's not a 4x5, should I get still get it and shoot 120 with that thing?
    Pros: I could probably afford more 120 than 4x5 in reality, I have everything to develop 4x5 with but not a big enough enlarger, or scanner.
    Cons: why on earth I wanna haul that around to shoot 120 when I can just use my TLRs or my 645? ( i know i get the tilt and all with the crown but the effect are not as dramatic as using it on 4x5 film?)

    Fire Away, Thank You.
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    Have you ever shot 6x9cm (you should be able to get a 6x9cm back for a Baby Crown)? I think of it as half way between 6x6cm and 4x5". I think the 6x9cm negative is a significant step above 6x6cm to make it worthwhile. Your 6x4.5cm negatives will seem microscopic 65mm is a really nice wide angle on 6x9cm.

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    The 65mm Angulon is not a 100% indicator of format. If you had a link to the photos of the camera, somebody could probably tell you if it's a 4x5, 3-1/4x4-1/4, or 2-1/4x 3-1/4. Sometimes you can tell by the location of the body release: a baby Crown has that at the bottom corner and a 4x5 has it somewhat higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mopar_guy View Post
    The 65mm Angulon is not a 100% indicator of format. If you had a link to the photos of the camera, somebody could probably tell you if it's a 4x5, 3-1/4x4-1/4, or 2-1/4x 3-1/4. Sometimes you can tell by the location of the body release: a baby Crown has that at the bottom corner and a 4x5 has it somewhat higher.
    Right here http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/pho/4076049166.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by ic-racer View Post
    Have you ever shot 6x9cm (you should be able to get a 6x9cm back for a Baby Crown)? I think of it as half way between 6x6cm and 4x5". I think the 6x9cm negative is a significant step above 6x6cm to make it worthwhile. Your 6x4.5cm negatives will seem microscopic 65mm is a really nice wide angle on 6x9cm.
    Yeah I looked up the different backs for it if its a baby crown, I don't see me able to come up the money for it since I already have to borrow some money to get the camera itself.
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    It's a 2-1/4x3-1/4 Crown Graphic. The lens shown with the cap on it is almost certainly a 105mm Kodak Ektar in a Flash Supermatic shutter. A 6x6 120 rollfilm back is shown in one photo. The camera has a Groflock back and what looks to be a Kalart Rangfinder.
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    It's all mixed up, It's all mixed up, It's all mixed up."

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    Some people are willing to pay a premium price for a 105mm Ektar.
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    She's always out the window, When it comes to making Dreams.

    It's all mixed up, It's all mixed up, It's all mixed up."

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    Well, That s**ks. Should I still get it? To use it, not too concern about reselling.
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    I have seen them sell for more. I have also seen them sell for less. The camera looks to be all there but a bit dirty. The are easy to clean up. You may have to give the shutter a CLA and you would be in business. Also from the photo of the camera you could not really tell the condition of the lenses. If it was me, and I was interested, I would offer them $125.
    Dave

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    She's always out the window, When it comes to making Dreams.

    It's all mixed up, It's all mixed up, It's all mixed up."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mopar_guy View Post
    I have seen them sell for more. I have also seen them sell for less. The camera looks to be all there but a bit dirty. The are easy to clean up. You may have to give the shutter a CLA and you would be in business. Also from the photo of the camera you could not really tell the condition of the lenses. If it was me, and I was interested, I would offer them $125.
    I talked em down from 250 to 150 already, too late for another offer I'd think. I can CLA the whole camera no problem, that won't be an issue. Just trying to think if its worth hauling around to use it. Hey thanks for all the info btw.
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