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    8x10 on a Budget

    Hello All,

    I am trying to get into 8x10 but have only 300 dollars saved till now. I want to know if there is a cheaper option to enter rather than waiting to save a lot of money for the likes of Deardorff etc. I thought film cameras would be cheaper to get, but unfortunately doesn't seem to be the case.

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    Just keep scoping fleabay. Something will open up.

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    By and large film cameras are less expensive than they used to be. However, you are talking about 8x10. 4x5 would be tough at 300.

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    Like Tom says, keep watching Ebay. I have seen 8x10 cameras sell that low here in the U.S. but of course they were the less desirable models. I don't know what shipping would cost you though.

    Just beware that lenses for 8x10 can be higher in price over 4x5, especially long lenses and wide angles. Film holders and film are more expensive. You may need a stronger tripod.

    Good luck to you. Shooting 8x10 is a lot of fun!

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    Raffay, you need: Lens, camera, at least one filmholder, camera support, film and a place to process it.

    $300 will get you (with luck) a camera or a lens.
    But here's what you could do - get a lens, and then get an 8x10 GG back. Make two boxes of 1/4" plywood so one slides into the other - mount the GG back on the bigger box, the lens on the box which slides inside, use some velvet to keep the light outside and/or make some baffles. You now have a focuseable boxcamera, put four rubber pads on it (like an old Deardorff V8) and a table can be the support.

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    As others have said, 8x10 at that price is going to be challenging. I have *no* idea what is and isn't available in Pakistan, though---in the States the cheapest options are the many early-20th-century wood cameras by American manufacturers (Eastman, Seneca, and so on), and I suppose you could buy internationally, but they're bulky and heavy and shipping will be a nasty additional expense.

    I find that lenses actually aren't too bad. My go-to lenses are a 215/4.8 Ilex Acuton, for which I think I paid about $100 in shutter on eBay, and a 270mm G-Claron. Older and theoretically-inferior lenses work just fine in larger formats---I suppose you're familiar with this from 4x5, and it only gets more so as the size goes up.

    Film holders sometimes go cheaply on here or from used equipment dealers, but they're still a whole lot more expensive than 4x5 holders.

    X-ray film is a cheap option for experimental shooting; most people wouldn't want to use it as their primary medium for serious work.

    Tripod stability becomes a big deal. Again, I don't know what's available in Pakistan, but here it's not too hard to find BIG heavy (inconvenient) tripods for cheap from private sellers; my Majestic cost me US$50 (thanks to a fellow member here who found it for me), and it will hold anything, but you need a team of mules to move the tripod itself from place to place!

    These costs add up, so it doesn't take much to exceed US$300. You may end up needing to buy piece by piece over time.

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    oops, didn't notice the guy is in Pakistan. I don't suppose they're exactly flooded with 8x10 gear over there. GL

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    Are you good building things? Many have started with pin hole cameras, either wood kits or cardboard. You don't pay for a lens or a camera. The field of view or angle of the view depends on the size of the hole and how far back the film or printing paper is.

    When I took a Photo 1 course in college I made a pin hole camera of a 12 quart oil carton. We laughed because it had a zoom feature. The lens or pin hole was fixed, but the printing paper was held in place by a sliding mechanism. The further I slid it back from the pin hole, the wider the angle. You can also make one using an 8x10 film holder and a fixed pinhole.

    A good place to start learning, if you are interested, is http://www.f295.org/main/forum.php.

    Good luck.

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    X-ray film is a cheap option for experimental shooting; most people wouldn't want to use it as their primary medium for serious work.
    Most people who use x-ray film use it for serious work. I do. Double and single-sided. It has a different look and makes a great film for carbon transfer work. Some people have made beautiful portraits with it (not me!). But you are right as far as it being a cheap option!!

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    You can also buy the camera, and just make a pinhole "lens" for it until you can afford one with glass in it.

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