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    Mounting 35mm SLR on a 4x5

    I don't know why I couldn't find anything in the threads about this. Seems worthy of a discussion though.

    I want to attach a Canon 1V to the back of my 4x5 and use the movements for macro (mainly) and maybe for panoramas. There's a plethora of these adapters on eBay. Are these worth getting? Seems cheaper than investing in a dedicated tilt-shift lenses. Any recommended features to look for, or avoid?

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    Macro... Maybe. The movements won't give that much extra DOF. panoramas....the mirror box shades the film too much to do much in the way of shifting. Frankly, bit of a dead end I think. Rollfilm holder would be a better option.

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    The camera and the adapter put a lot of distance between the lens and the film, so your minimum focal length that will focus to infinity will be around 120mm, depending on the camera. But you could use longer lenses and do macro, or shorter lenses and do micro, with movements, recording on 35mm, but it seems like a lot of trouble when you could just shoot on 4x5" and crop however you want.

    For pano, figure that you're shooting with the 35mm camera oriented horizontally, you can get about 2-3 frames, sliding the back, depending on the focal length of the lens, and given the minimum focal length at infinity, it's not going to be a very wide view. Again, it would make more sense just to shoot 4x5" or maybe 6x12cm rollfilm to get the desired panoramic effect.
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    I know 4x5 would be an easier option... But I'm kind of not in it to make easy images. http://www.apug.org/forums/forum55/1...ust-crazy.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdSawyer View Post
    Macro... Maybe. The movements won't give that much extra DOF. panoramas....the mirror box shades the film too much to do much in the way of shifting. Frankly, bit of a dead end I think. Rollfilm holder would be a better option.
    I'll see what I get after developing the film in the 120 film holder and see what it looks like. Do they make 35mm roll film adapters for 4x5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcc View Post
    I know 4x5 would be an easier option... But I'm kind of not in it to make easy images. http://www.apug.org/forums/forum55/1...ust-crazy.html
    Ahhh, you're that guy. Well, in that case, with the 35mm camera oriented horizontally and no overlap, you would only be able to make about a 2x2 grid before bumping into vignetting problems from the mirror box and the adapter tube needed to offset the 35mm camera from the 4x5" camera back.
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    Loved that earlier post jcc! Can't wait to see what you have planned next. There are premade 4x5 back to dslr bayonet adapters readily available that they created primarily for stitching photos. They allow you to mount the camera onto the back and slide it around the frame. Also if you get a roll film back you can make or purchase a 35mm to 120 reel adapter and attach the film that way and use a changing bag to take out the finished roll. But what David said is important as you field of view would be narrowed even with a wide lens when shooting onto a single frame of 35mm. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    Ahhh, you're that guy. Well, in that case, with the 35mm camera oriented horizontally and no overlap, you would only be able to make about a 2x2 grid before bumping into vignetting problems from the mirror box and the adapter tube needed to offset the 35mm camera from the 4x5" camera back.
    I don't exactly know how to take that... Hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newt_on_Swings View Post
    Loved that earlier post jcc! Can't wait to see what you have planned next. There are premade 4x5 back to dslr bayonet adapters readily available that they created primarily for stitching photos. They allow you to mount the camera onto the back and slide it around the frame. Also if you get a roll film back you can make or purchase a 35mm to 120 reel adapter and attach the film that way and use a changing bag to take out the finished roll. But what David said is important as you field of view would be narrowed even with a wide lens when shooting onto a single frame of 35mm. Good luck!
    Thank you. I'll first give the roll film back a try, since I already have one. Now I just have to google how to spool 35mm into a 120 holder (or is it 220, since there's no paper?).

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    I've contemplated one of these for a while, but in the end decided against.
    My reasoning was that there's no point in getting an adaptor to my P6 (they do exist) because I can just use a 120 rollback.
    Getting an adapter to my EOS 3 is kind of pointless, I can shoot the same film in 4x5 as I would get in 35mm (except PanF and D3200, but I could use them in aforementioned 120 rollback), and I'd get the same IQ as just cropping a 4x5 or 120 (albeit, probably cheaper per frame, ignoring the cost of the 35-4x5 adapter).
    The only thing I could think of would be to my 7D, for digital macro (which would be even more macro by the time I've added extension tubes to get around that damn popup flash). But for something that limited, meh. I've got an OM bellows and lenses for that that I barely use (although it doesn't have any tilt/swing).

    ps, I've tried 35mm in a 120 camera (either P6 or K60, can't remember) using the tissue-stuffing method. Either way, they have pressure plates to keep the film registered. But the wind-on was all over the shop because there was no length of paper at the front to get the right diameter on the spool (the photos were an inch apart at one end, 5mm at the other, at least they weren't overlapped).

    Speaking of crazy cameras, I've just joined the 617 club with a DaYi back. I too completely intend to do something crazy with that, like 3x17 sprocket-holed panormae with 35mm film.
    An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.

    f/64 and be there.

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