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    light weight lf tripod

    I'm thinking of getting an Ebony 4X5, and a good versatile, but lightweight, tripod; maybe composite. I looked at Gitzo on the web, but don't know the models.
    Any recommedations?
    Thanks, Steven
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    Hi Steven,

    If you want to pay the price, any of the Gitzo Carbon Fibers are very good and light weight, albeit on the high side of the prices, the Bogen 3001 is also a very reasonably priced aluminum that will handle the ebony, and one of the underdogs that I have used and really liked is the Giotto, Carbon Fiber less than half the cost of the Gitzo's very sturdy and lightweight, and has a center column that works very simular to the Bendo tripods.

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    I'm in a similar situation. I am looking to replace my worn out Vivitar 914 -- which I've been using with a Crown Graphic in the field. I've been looking at the Bogen/Manfrotto 3021B but am not sure which head (a Gitzo is over my budget).

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    everyone I know that bought a carbon fibre tripod has had problems with the locking colars. I talked to one of the owners of a local camera store and he indicated this was a common problem.
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    I have a couple of heads that I like to use on my Bogen 3021 and 3001 sticks. At the moment, I have an older heavy duty Linhof ball head mounted on the 3021, but I also like my old Manfrotto Pro Ball model 168 (the one that uses the hex shaped QR plates). I use the RC0 QR adapter on the Linhof head. My third choice would be a 3047 3-way head, but to be honest, I tend to keep that one on my 3036 sticks these days.

    I personally wouldn't use a 3001 with anything bigger than 6X6 with the legs completely extended, and that's even pushing the limit. Sure, it's rated for 11 pounds, but I doubt that it's really stable enough for 4X5 use - especially if you're outdoors with any amount of wind.

    I've looked at a lot of carbon fiber sticks but couldn't get past the sticker shock when comparing price to performance. I've found that the best bang for my buck was getting a Berlebach wood tripod. It's light, does a great job of absorbing vibration, and the model I have (the 2042) holds my rather heavy 5X7 rig rock steady. I bought mine used (from a fellow APUG'er), but even at the new-in-box price, it's a great value.
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    Bob's right...the 3001 is too light for a 4x5, and iffy (IMHO) for even MF. The Bogen 3021 tripod legs with a 3047 pan and tilt head holds my Sinar securely...highly recommend.

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    Another vote for the 3021. Are you going to sell your Ries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shmoo
    Bob's right...the 3001 is too light for a 4x5, and iffy (IMHO) for even MF. The Bogen 3021 tripod legs with a 3047 pan and tilt head holds my Sinar securely...highly recommend.

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    Actually, the 3001 is just perfect for our Mamiya TLR with paramender and prism finder. It's certainly too light, though for the P67. The 3021 legs and 3047 head work extremely well for the Pentax and for the Omegaview. The latter combination seems to be extremely popular and not at all too expensive. (The best price I've seen for these kits is from Tri-State Camera in NYC, from whom I bought mine btw, though all this stuff has escalated drastically over the several years since I bought it.) Good luck. Buying new stuff is a lot of fun...I hope I can do it again myself someday soon.
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    Nothing wrong with the Bogens but personally I don't like the tubular leg design. I find the Linhof leg design much more stable. You will see the difference when you bump the pod by accident. Take a hard look at the Linhof 3414, solid, sturdy and relativly light.

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    I have used a Manfrotto 055 (Sorry don't know Bogen No) with my Ebony with good results for a while with the 410 geared head which is great for setting up the shot. Play developed in the head which I replaced with the heavier duty 405.

    I have subsequently found that the play disappears by removing the angle stickers on the 410, removing the allen bolt, disengaging the gears by rotating course control and then rotating the geared barrel insert around to some previously unsed gear teeth.

    A new Gitzo 1325 arrived at Christmas which is light and stronger then the Manfrotto but then is 4 times the price! As Eric pointed out the locking collars are a potential nightmare. They have fine pitch thread covered in heavy grease which is incredibly effective as a sand/grit magnet ready to grind the carbon away. Not ideal when I mainly shoot on the coast.

    By stripping the tripod down and degreasing then applying some PTFE McLube I have minimised this problem. The other advice is to leave 2-3inches of the bottom leg section extended so that only this gets near the sand/dirt.

    The 1325 is plenty tall enough, with legs fully extended and the 405 head, I cannot reach the top of the GG. I am 6 foot. I chose the 1325 because of stability for LF, height and that the 3 section legs are less fiddly to set up for each shot than the 4 section. As I now know, it also has less sand traps!

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