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    Roll-film backs for 4x5 camera ...

    What backs are preferrable to use on 4x5 camera (Graflock compatable, of course) ? I'm making my way into LF (4x5), however will be willing to be able to shot roll-film aside of 4x5 sheets.
    I noticed two roll-film backs types are available - by Horseman and Super-Rolex (presumably by Linhof ?).

    I'll be set with either, 6x7 or 6x9 version, so aside of particular format (6x7 or 6x9) which brand would be prefferable and why ?

    Also, what I'm not sure I'm quite realize: are all the movements inherent to 4x5 will be applicable once shooting on roll-film ? How this is established ?
    (Do I compose (including movements if necessary) and focus on focusing screen
    bearing appropriate 6x7 or 6x9 marks on it and then attach appropriate roll-film back to record the image ?)
    Thanks in advance, Alex

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    Wista make good roll film backs, and they are very good value for money. I've had a 6x9 for quite a while which fits under the glass on my Wista, or locks onto my Cambo 6x9 is a great format for landscape.

    Some focussing screens are marked for 6x7 and 6x9, if not use a pencil to mark the ground glass to show the relevant corners.

    Compose to those corners, movements are all still applicable regardless of which format you shoot, roll film or 5x4

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    I have some old graflex (singer) backs in 6 x 6 and 6 x 7, and 6 x 9, they work fine....quite inexpensive 60-85 bucks....I am going to try and modify one to make a 6 x 12, but with my skill level I will probably destroy it!

    That might be a good cottage market for those among us with the skill level to make the modification......

    change a graflex roll back to 6 x 12....should be worth a couple hundred bucks?

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    roll film back

    you will like the Horseman - I saw one sell pretty cheap the other day on paybay. they make 6x9 and 6x12, both usable on 4x5.

    the cheaper graflock/singer types are tedious and nowhere near as well built.

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    There is no substitute for the full 5X4 format as you do get what you see and pay for.
    Whereas, with most roll film backs I have used they all fall well short of the stated 6X9, 6X12 etc. The only one I would consider should I have such a dire need for such an accessory is the Sinar Zoom. Yes, it does cost an arm and a leg, but you only get what you pay for. Sorry if this post sounds like a downer which is not the intention. Stan. L-B
    'Determine on some course more than a wild exposure to each chance' The Bard.

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    Thank you guys, still no clear opinions as regarding Super-Rolex vs. Horseman backs though.
    Stan, I suspect I made myself misunderstood by my original posting - taking LF (4x5) approach I do not intend to opt solely for lesser then 4x5, but rather an added convenience of roll film at 6x7, 6x9 and probably even panoramic 6x12 appeals to be as well. I do not want to rule out these formats by going 4x5, though certainly native 4x5 will become the major one when appropriate.

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    If I could afford it I would get the Horseman 6 x 12 for my 4 x 5, and will probably do so one day soon....I have also looked a bit into the shen hoa set up....they make a 6 x 17 which has all the masks for the smaller formats also and the 6 x 17 fits on a 4 x 5 graf back?

    Yes, I agree with you it is nice to have the roll film option and a lot of popular images sold now seem to be the panoramic ratios....

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    One alternative is get an Agfa with sliders. You'll have 5x7, 4x5, 2-1/2x7, 3-1/2x5 and 1-1/4x2-3/4 and all with one camera!

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    Hi,
    Robert White has 2 Sinar slip in RFHs which are discontinued stock by Sinar. I have just bought one and it is the ultimate RFH. I paid 235 pounds, the original price was 995 pounds..Evan Clarke

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    Frankly, I used to stay away from "all-in-one" approaches photo gear-wise, somethign cannot trust in (regardign precision and reliability).
    I think I would be set with just one or two roll-film formats: 6x9 and probably 6x12 in some future. This is why I think I would still consider dedicated 6x9 backs for the time being...

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