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    My first time! (in 4x5)

    ... and all I can say is ... WOW!!!

    I knew it would be different, but this is like... nothing I've seen or experienced before!

    I never did 4x5 format before - my biggest negs were 6x9 in my Speed Graphic 23 with a roll back, on medium format film.

    I got an old (but functional) Pacemaker Speed 4x5 a while ago, and finally caught some time to do a couple of test shots - mainly to try my hand in developing 4x5.
    Our own Paul Sorensen here on apug was a big help, by providing me with a nice JOBO 2523 tank (I already have an old JOBO CPE processor).
    I'm still waiting for my newly purchased JOBO 4x5 reel (it's been almost two months since I ordered it!)....
    Since I could not wait any more (understandably), and yesterday was a nice day after a week of rain, I loaded one of my old wooden Graphic double holders (an adventure unto itself ) with Efke PL 100, and after some preparation (seemed hours!), I took my first two shots. There were zillion things that could go wrong, but it seems I was lucky

    The negs are drying as I write this....

    As for developing, after careful thought (and after discarding the idea of using some DIY tubes that I prepared), I decided to try a variant of "taco" development. Namely, the JOBO 2523 tank has "ridges" on its inner wall, and I found an old JOBO "formatholder" thingy (JOBO #4206) - supposedly for fastening test strips in their paper drums. I noticed I could use those little plastic tubes (spacers?) by clipping them to those inner ridges to keep the 2 negs fixed to the inner wall of the tank - i.e. to keep them from moving around. The only problem was whether those spacers would hold the negs from slipping inside, becoming loose, and scratching everything

    However, everything went well. I decided for a bit more diluted Rodinal (approx. 1+60, to make a total of about 350 ml of developer), and developing time of 10 minutes.
    When I opened the tank after the final wash - WOW - the negs were still fastened, not loose inside the tank, and when I carefully pulled the first one out - I almost fainted! There was an image there!

    The negs look OK - a bit on a thin side, perhaps, but they are aimed for scanning....
    We'll see tomorrow when they dry and after scanning.

    In short, a big THANK YOU goes to all Apugers, who continue to inspire and teach me.

    (Now, if only I could get my hands on some of those Jim Galli's lenses....)

    Just kidding - I have two brass oldies to try out before that

    Regards,

    Denis

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    Welcome to the ranks of the large negative! Soon, your wallet and bank account will be just as empty as the rest of ours...

    hehehehe
    Bob Fowler
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    Some people are like Slinkies. They're really good for nothing, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

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    Bob,

    What Wallet?! since I started LF, I don't carry the extra weight! nothing to put in it

    Dave

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    how exciting!!!!

    I am waiting for my first shoot... It's probably gonna be next weekend!
    I was thinking of doing some kind of tray development as I don't have anything else yet....
    Post a scan, I'd love to see a first attempt!

    Cheers,

    Onno

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    It'll all be routine before you know it. Welcome to the club.
    flickr--http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidagoldfarb/
    Photography (not as up to date as the flickr site)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com/photo
    Academic (Slavic and Comparative Literature)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com

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    Welcome aboard.

    All I can say is wait until you shoot some E6 film. Its really nice, but whatever you do, dont ever shoot 8x10 E6. I made that mistake and now my 4x5 seems pale in comparison.

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    Congratulations Denis. I still remember the thrill of seeing my first 4x5 negatives, and some of that thrill still lives on every time I look at newly developed large format negative regardless of the size. There's a very special magic to a negative so large that you can examine the detail with your naked eye. And just wait until you see them on the light table with a loupe...
    Film is cheap. Opportunities are priceless.

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    (Bongos, Maestro!) Congratulations! Doodeedoodee doodeedoodee---You have entered a space and time that defies logic and wealth. Its a place where the past, future and present not only meet, but sumo wrestle. A destination where pyro and amidol ebb and flow like the water in Giselle the Deardorff gal's bath tub and Ansel Adams tripod holes spew forth geysers of Ansco 130... SO sit back, load some more film holders and set that alarm clock for 5:00AM for whatever time zone you choose...as long as its in...THE TWILIGHT OF LF PHOTOGRAPHY ZONE! Doodeedoodee doodeedoodee ;-)

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    Welcome to the old school.
    Today I shot the fall color in northren Utah. 4 hours to shoot 8 chromes. That was 4 hours to realy study the hills. Great way to start a day. A camera phone just don't cut it.
    DIGITAL IS FOR THOSE AFRAID OF THE DARK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kasaian
    Doodeedoodee doodeedoodee---
    I thought that was what the dog did that made the spots on the grass? Oh never mind. Congratulations Denis!! Welcome aboard. In fact I've been out loading about 50 sheets of 4X5 Efke 25 myself. Gotta watch that Efke film. Loading away and all of a sudden I notice the code's on the wrong side. Yipes! How many have I done wrong? Seems they switch every so often instead of the entire box being one directional.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep..to gain that which he cannot lose. Jim Elliot, 1949

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