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    LF 210mm. Which one?

    I've always heard the 210mm Sironar-S was an amazing lens. Does it have any competitors for 4x5 usuage when enlarging to 16x20?

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    I have only used about 10-12 LF lenses, but of those I have used and own 3 G-Claron lenses, and IMO they are very very sharp lenses. That includes the 210. I had a rodenstock Sironar 150mm that I always thought was tack sharp until I shot a G-Claron lens. Now I own 3 and thats it. I just wish they made a 90mm lens too.

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    I have G Clarons too Troy and like them very much. I am using a 210mm G Claron on my Durst 138 enlarger.

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    Are we talking about lenses to use on the enlarger or, lenses to use on the camera?

    I've heard that the new Schneider APO Symmar-L is on par with the Sironar-S but, alas, I have no data with either one.

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    From what I understand the G-clarons are process lenses.

    A lot of them that you see on Ebay are mounted in a barrel so you have to buy a shutter. Even with that I bought a 150 in shutter for $65 and a 240 for $110 and bought a used shutter from mpex.

    My 210 was as sharp as any medium format lens I have used except for the Mamiya 7 and the $3000 Pentax 67 300mm EDIF lens.

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    the G- Clarons are process lenses and they can be used as taking lenses and as enlarging lenses. The 150 mm fits into a copal #0 without any modification other than a scale for f/stops. The 210 thru the 305 fits directly into the copal #1 without any modification also and the 355 mm fits into the copal #3 without any modification. The only problem that might be seens as a problem is they are slow. f/9.

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    Enlarging 4x5" to 16x20" is a 4x enlargement. All 210mm lenses produced in the last 50 years (as well as many of the older ones) are capable of giving sufficient resolution on 4x5" film for that.

    I use/have used a 210 APO-Lanthar, a 210 Xenar, a 210 Angulon (1947 vintage), as well as 180 Dagor, 180 Xenar, 240 Symmar, and a 210 Aplanat. Within your specification the only difference is in contrast, not sharpness.
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    You could spend the extra $1000 plus bucks but according to Kerry Thalmann's / Chris Perez' resolution charts an ordinary Symmar - S like the one I have for sale here at APUG would do as well or better. I've also found that true in actual practice having used a Sironar-N but not the -S. Years ago I did a shoot out between a Symmar-S and Sironar-N and while the resurlts were for ANY practical purpose indistinguishable, I felt the Symmar had a very slight overall edge and that was the lens I kept. Just now my 210 stash includes an early dagor type G-Claron that I adore, and the harder to find Computar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimgalli
    You could spend the extra $1000 plus bucks but according to Kerry Thalmann's / Chris Perez' resolution charts an ordinary Symmar - S like the one I have for sale here at APUG would do as well or better. I've also found that true in actual practice having used a Sironar-N but not the -S. Years ago I did a shoot out between a Symmar-S and Sironar-N and while the resurlts were for ANY practical purpose indistinguishable, I felt the Symmar had a very slight overall edge and that was the lens I kept. Just now my 210 stash includes an early dagor type G-Claron that I adore, and the harder to find Computar.

    Jim, That 210 Symmar-S you have offered here has been tempting me for weeks. I wake at night dreaming about it. I believe it would complement my 135mm Symmar-S nicely (although, my 135mm si single coated and I see that the 210 you have offered is in fact the highly desireable multi coated version). I'm still recovering from my "drunken sailor" spending of a couple a months ago.

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    Brad, you need to forego any further agony and just buy it

    Quote Originally Posted by BradS
    Jim, That 210 Symmar-S you have offered here has been tempting me for weeks. I wake at night dreaming about it. I believe it would complement my 135mm Symmar-S nicely (although, my 135mm si single coated and I see that the 210 you have offered is in fact the highly desireable multi coated version). I'm still recovering from my "drunken sailor" spending of a couple a months ago.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep..to gain that which he cannot lose. Jim Elliot, 1949

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