Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I also have the Leica loupe which I like very much, but that one I want to keep at home and not take out into the field. I appreciate your comment regarding the Horseman Lupe, something for consideration (and about the same length of my Wista Hood Lupe).
I appreciate that a short lupe can and may present itself as a problem. After checking back over other eBay listing of Schneider Lupes of the same age period I believe that lupe that I am getting is in-fact a metal housing (however, I could be incorrect). For $41 plus shipping, I think that this was a good price. Additionally, I do like the bottom of the Schneider Lupe so that it should not damage/scratch my Fresnel Lens. If I find that it is a problem for length and in particular when cold due to ones breath, I may follow your suggestion regarding the Horseman Lupe.
I will report in once I receive and have a chance to try the Schneider Lupe.
I have a Schneider 8x focusing loupe that is very good for looking at film, but I think it is a little too much magnification for GG. When I use it I feel like I am looking at the glass texture more than the aerial image. I am casually looking for an inexpensive 4x, I think. I like the look of those Fuji's that keep coming up, but I don't know that they're really worth the $40 or $50 they've been getting at auction (I think they were actually a free premium when you bought Fuji film??).
Actually, I have a lot of lupes from which to choose including: a 4X Rodenstock, 4X Horizon, 4X Fuji, 3X 6X6 Aspheric Rodenstock, 5X Leica, and the 7X Wista Hood Lupe. I have been using the Wista Lupe for years, it has good optics and though it does pick up a bit of the Fresnel Lens and the original Linhof Ground Glass, I have found it quite usable.
Originally Posted by wilsonneal
But, now that I have the Satin Snow GG installed into Linhof Technikardan 45S, I have about an additional stop of light and the grind of the GG is not as visible as the original GG. So far, I have found that the 7X Wista Lupe relatively easy to work with the new Satin Snow GG. As mentioned I do not feel that there will be that much difference in magnification between the 7X Wista and 8X magnification of the Schneider Lupe. But, I will have to check the Lupe when it arrives. Also, as mentioned I need critical focus due to the size prints made of between 24" x 30" to 40" x 50".
By the way the original Fuji Lupes (including the one that I have in black) were a Fuji Giveaway. I think that those in silver were later released for sale. By the way these do have good optics.
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I have decided to also make this into a new thread.
Well, I wanted to let everyone know that I received the Schneider 8X Lupe. First of all, I was in error the housing does appear to be made out of plastic. The lupe is smaller than I would have thought, has good optics, and weighs a remarkable 1.2 oz including the neck strap.
I have run some non scientific tests of this lupe and a series of others that may be of interest to read. First I set up my Linhof Technikardan 45S with a new Satin Snow GG and a grid overlay, Linhof Fresnel, with a hybrid BlackJacket Dark cloth, mounted on one of my smaller Gitzo Carbon fiber tripods- the 1257LVL. The camera was mounted via 2 Arca 3" QR plates to a Kirk 2 1/2" Arca Type QR which was attached to a Markins M20. Let me make comment however that in the tests I did not lock the controls of the camera.
I used 3 lenses to test the set-up a Rodenstock f6.8 90mm Grandagon N MC, Rodenstock f9.0 300mm Apo Ronar, and a Nikon f11.0 500mm ED T Telephoto lens. All lenses were used wide open to check the ease of use of a series of lupes with these slower optics. Most of the tests were conducted using the Rodenstock f9.0 300mm Apo Ronar and the Nikon f11.0 500mm ED T Telephoto.
I compared the focus and ease of focus of the following lupes: 1) Schneider Kreuznach 8X Lupe, 2) Wista 7X Hood Lupe, 3) 5X Leica Universal Lupe, 4) Fujifilm Professional 4X Lupe, 5) Rodenstock 4X Lupe, 6) Horizon 4X Lupe, and 7) Rodenstock 6x6 3X Lupe.
I am quite near sited and wear glasses, but frequently will focus my cameras including my Technikardan 45S without them. All the tests were focused with my left eye without glasses.
I focused on several items outside, one the key hole of a lock to an outside door to my garage that was about 2/3 out from the center and a set of shutters on the house behind my home which were between center and about 1/3 out from the center.
I found that the Schneider 8X lupe is usable with these lenses, but with some difficulty. This narrow field Lupe optics are sharp, but it did pick up more grain of the ground glass and the Fresnel Lens. This is short with low eye relief and requires the viewer to be looking right down the lens axis otherwise there are abberation problems. I have to decide for myself how I want to use this new lupe, I may carry it on ocassion and/or for the lightest weight backpacking lupe.
I was unable to adjust the focus of my Rodenstock 6 x 6 3X lupe for ground glass focusing.
The Wista 7X Hood Lupe which has been my go to Lupe for years performed quite well with a good distance from the ground glass, but relatively narrow field of view. The optics are sharp, but picked up less grain from the ground glass and the Fresnel Lens that the 8X Lupe but a little more than the 5X and the 4X Lupes.
The performance of the Rodenstock and the Fujifilm Professional 4X Lupe were similar but not up to the performance of the Horizon 4X and the Leica 5X Lupes. The Horizon and the Leica seemed close in performance, the Leica perhaps slightly better. Of all the Lupes the Leica is the most expensive and probably the best constructed.
The surprise of all the Lupes is the Horizon which was a gift from one of my friends at Bogen Photo (they used to be the distributor) and this one needed the skirt to be glued back in place. The Leica Lupe may be slightly more magnification at 5X than the Horizon at 4X. From what I was told by my friends at Bogen, and I can not confirm this, this Russian Lupe is actually made from Zeiss Jena optics. Judging from the performance, I believe it. This is a great inexpensive Lupe (plastic housing) if anyone is looking for one. It has a Square skirt and a tremendous field of view. The image was quite bright, extremely sharp and contrasty with very good color, and quite detailed.
For me at this point, I believe that my first choice for lupes will either be my Horizon 4X or my Wista 7X Hood Lupe, with the Schneider 8X lupe selected primarily for light weight backpacking or to supplement the Horizon. Now all I have to do is to make a neck strap for the Horizon and I am in business.
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Ebay issues aside, this looks like the lupe I have been using for 2 -3 years. It works very well and weighs more like 1 1/2 ounces. Great little thing. Drawback is that can't get right to edges of GG. I still carry the Silvestri 6x tilting loupe, but cannot remember the last time I used it.
Reason I can't say for sure that it is the same as mine is that once I'd adjusted the focussing, I wrapped black pvc tape around it to lock the thread.
I have a Peak x7 and a Nikon x7 and they are sufficient for me.