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    Finally serious about large format...

    Okay. I left for a while because Gear Acquisition Syndrome was getting the best of me and I had to get away before I bought too much. During September, though, I'm selling most of the gear that I don't want/need anymore and I think it's time to get myself a 4x5 before I go to Colorado in October.

    Give me some options as to various ways I could go on a budget that is no more than $200. I'd like to spend only about $150 because I'm also planning to get a Bessa R2M and 35mm Nokton next year if I can swing it. I was thinking Crown Graphic before, but could I get something with more movements on my budget?

    Also, I plan to use the standard 127mm lens...but something wider, such as a 90mm, would be nice.

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    You could almost certainly buy a Crown Graphıc for around 100 USD on Ebay, but the 127mm lens wıll have little coverage for movements, if your lucky you mıght pick up a good f6.8 90mm Angulon as well for under 100 USD. Wollensak 90mm WA is another option.

    Unfortunately its unlikely you'll fınd a camera wıth more movements ın you budget.

    Try a wanted add here ın the classıfıeds.

    Ian

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    Dear Stephanie,

    If you can stand the weight and don't mind a bigger format, seriously consider a half plate/5x7 inch/13x18cm Kodak Specialist. For some reason these sometimes go for very little more than the value of the lens that comes with them, possibly because many people don't realize that the sizes are interchangeable and the film is still available. Of course the problem may also be that they're ugly as sin and they weigh a ton. But I've seen them reasonably often at camera fairs in Britain and Europe for the equivalent of under $200.

    Cheers,

    Roger

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    If I sold my Canon P I'd have more money to spend on a large format camera...but I don't want to. So...cheap is the name of the game here. The camera itself can be a complete beater user...but I'd want the glass to be really nice. I care more about getting the right lens than I do about getting a cosmetically mint camera, which should help things. I'll go looking around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Hicks
    Dear Stephanie,

    If you can stand the weight and don't mind a bigger format, seriously consider a half plate/5x7 inch/13x18cm Kodak Specialist. For some reason these sometimes go for very little more than the value of the lens that comes with them, possibly because many people don't realize that the sizes are interchangeable and the film is still available. Of course the problem may also be that they're ugly as sin and they weigh a ton. But I've seen them reasonably often at camera fairs in Britain and Europe for the equivalent of under $200.

    Cheers,

    Roger
    What is keeping me away from 5x7 is that the film is considerably more expensive than 4x5. I'd almost be better off waiting, saving, and spending money on an 8x10 for how much money I'd be spending on film with as much as I'll shoot. Heh.

    I want to start with 4x5 due to the relatively cheap price of the film, ease of finding development materials, and cheaper enlarger down the road.

    Also, I don't know of a photo supply store in Iowa that stocks 5x7 film. It has to be special ordered and that costs a lot of money.

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    Dear Stephanie,

    Yes, 5x7 is more expensive, but I find I shoot less of it. Not sure what you mean by 'development materials' as if you tray process it's obviously the same.

    Enlargers often cost about the same for either format; it's just that 5x7 enlargers are a lot thinner on the ground. But then, 5x7 is big enough for a contact print, and 4x5 isn't really. I actually prefer 5x7 to 8x10 (and I have both).

    Finally, I'd have thought you'd mail-order the film anyway.

    Don't take any of this as argumentative. All I'm trying to do is (a) evangelize for my favourite format and (b) suggest counter-arguments.

    You might also want to see the free 'Large Formats' module in the Photo School at www.rogerandfrances.com.

    Cheers,

    R.

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    I'd never accuse you of being argumentative.

    You're actually right about the contact printing thing and since it's the only thing I'd be able to do for a while perhaps I should consider 5x7 more seriously. I don't have a credit card, though, and I'd want to be buying Arista EDU Ultra film.

    I'll think about it, though. What are the odds of me finding a 90mm or wider lens that would cover 5x7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie Brim
    What are the odds of me finding a 90mm or wider lens that would cover 5x7?
    Stephanie,

    90mm lens, but what is the angle of view you want to achieve with that lens?
    here is a comparison chart of focal lenghts on 35mm film towards a lot of the larger formats.

    The choice is yours!

    Greetings,
    G

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    I knew what the ballpark equivalents were, but that's helpful. Ideally I'd want a 75mm lens, but a 90mm would work just fine.

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    I'm afraid your proposed budget will not allow for such a lens...

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