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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    Good demo that applies to any camera.

    What he didn't tell you is that on the Sinar F2 he's using, he could have also just used the swing/tilt calculator, but either method is quick to do once you get the hang of it.
    To learn to manipulate plane of focus by using the F2 system is like trying to learn exposure by setting your camera on program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomonator60 View Post
    To learn to manipulate plane of focus by using the F2 system is like trying to learn exposure by setting your camera on program.
    I completely agree (well, except for the fact that program exposure mode is less reliable than the Sinar calculator) that for teaching purposes, it's better to demonstrate without using the calculator.

    Out of curiosity, when you're just shooting with the Sinar and not demonstrating, do you use the calculator? I used to have a Sinar F, and even though my other view cameras don't have it and I can manage without it just fine, I thought the swing/tilt calculator was a handy feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    I completely agree (well, except for the fact that program exposure mode is less reliable than the Sinar calculator) that for teaching purposes, it's better to demonstrate without using the calculator.

    Out of curiosity, when you're just shooting with the Sinar and not demonstrating, do you use the calculator? I used to have a Sinar F, and even though my other view cameras don't have it and I can manage without it just fine, I thought the swing/tilt calculator was a handy feature.
    I don't, we have about 30 Sinars in the studio. But we also have (and I use) a Cambo it is geared like the P and a lot smoother. What drives me crazy about the Sinar F is the tilt has a bottom, instead of center pivot. That allows the one to hold focus while tilting but it also changes the size in the subject and the framing of the subject when doing close up work because the lens moves forward or back.

    All in all, I don't even mention the tilt or swing calculator or the depth of field calculator on the Sinars although I think they are kinda cool because students today often just rent large format cameras for a particular job and I don't want to teach features that might not be available to them.

    We always try (not always successfully) to teach students how to think about equipment and software rather than teach them how to use a specific type of equipment or software because both change so fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomonator60 View Post
    I don't, we have about 30 Sinars in the studio. But we also have (and I use) a Cambo it is geared like the P and a lot smoother. What drives me crazy about the Sinar F is the tilt has a bottom, instead of center pivot. That allows the one to hold focus while tilting but it also changes the size in the subject and the framing of the subject when doing close up work because the lens moves forward or back.
    Fair enough. When I found a good deal on a P for studio work, I sold off my F.
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