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    Swapping LF lens

    Hi all,

    In a recent purchase of a LF camera, I received two lens, a 190 WF Ektar and a 12 inch Commercial Ektar. Both came mounted in #4 Acme shutters. The 12 inch Acme shutter doesn't work. I looked at the spacing on the shutters, they look identical. Any one see any reason why I cannot change the lens elements and the front plate (for aperture use) on the Acme? I don't need the 190mm right away, it won't cover 8x10 and for 5x7 I have a 150 Fujinon W 6.3 that should cover the WA 5x7 format.

    Maybe one of the LF lens gurus can weigh in on this.

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    Sure, you can swap the lens cells and use your working shutter as long as the threads are the same. I've also got a 190mm Wide Field Ektar and it does cover 8x10--not with much movement, but it does cover. I'd get the other shutter fixed because then you'll have a very nice 190mm/300mm combination for your 8x10.

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    If the twelve incher is the same length, end-to-end, in both shutters, why not?

    BTW, EKCo claims that the 190 WF Ektar will cover 312 mm at f/16, ~ 360 mm at f/45. See http://www.prairienet.org/b-wallen/B...kEktarsDB2.htm and http://yandr.50megs.com/kodak/ektar/page2.htm respectively.

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    So you need a minimum of 326mm for 8x10. The 190mm should be good at f22 and smaller.

    Off to switch a front plate. The other Acme #4 shutter will be fixed. No reason to have one of those sitting around collecting dust.

    In a related finding last night, I found a Speed-o-scope Jr that screws to the front threads of a JML 305mm/f9 lens I have. Time to make some more lens boards. It only has 3 speeds, but three speeds are bett'n none.


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    Quote Originally Posted by k_jupiter View Post
    So you need a minimum of 326mm for 8x10. The 190mm should be good at f22 and smaller.

    In a related finding last night, I found a Speed-o-scope Jr that screws to the front threads of a JML 305mm/f9 lens I have. Time to make some more lens boards. It only has 3 speeds, but three speeds are bett'n none.

    No 310 ish to cover 8x10.

    Your JML has threads?? Luxury. My 210mm doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Zentena View Post
    No 310 ish to cover 8x10.

    Your JML has threads?? Luxury. My 210mm doesn't.
    Neither does mine. I haven't figured out how to put a shutter on that one. It does seem a extremely sharp lens though, the 210. What a wonderful plasmat design.

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    All,

    Along these line, Since Carol F. is taking a break, where is a good repair place in the SF Bay area? K&S in Palo Alto? Anyone have any recommendations? All I suspect this shutter needs is a good CLA.

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    k_jupiter,

    For shutter CLA I recommend calling Paul Ebel at Lens Services:
    420 21st St. N #2 P.O. Box 141
    Menomonie WI 54751
    (651)335-8759

    Also, if you are getting a sharp image on the ground glass, that is confirmation that the spacing is okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_jupiter View Post
    All,

    Along these line, Since Carol F. is taking a break, where is a good repair place in the SF Bay area? K&S in Palo Alto? Anyone have any recommendations? All I suspect this shutter needs is a good CLA.

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    Tim, I've often received good service from Apollo Camera repair in Oakland (1411 Webster Street). There is also a very good shop (better than Apollo actually but...) in Walnut Creek. I think it is called "Apex Camera Repair" or something...Anyway, it is two old timers in a little shop on Boulevard way. They do fantastic work at reasonable prices but, service time is highly variable...it might take a day, it might take weeks. The owner's name is Wally. He's kinda curmugeounly. There's an old german guy in the back too...

    I avoid ICT in Mountain View. The old german guy who owns the place is a crook...tried to tell me that my Synchro-Compur needed a $175 overhaul. This was a completely operational, running shutter. I just wanted it cleaned and lubed for my own peace of mind. Carol brought it back to A-1 service for $50!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradS View Post
    Tim, I've often received good service from Apollo Camera repair in Oakland (1411 Webster Street). There is also a very good shop (better than Apollo actually but...) in Walnut Creek. I think it is called "Apex Camera Repair" or something...Anyway, it is two old timers in a little shop on Boulevard way. They do fantastic work at reasonable prices but, service time is highly variable...it might take a day, it might take weeks. The owner's name is Wally. He's kinda curmugeounly. There's an old german guy in the back too...

    I avoid ICT in Mountain View. The old german guy who owns the place is a crook...tried to tell me that my Synchro-Compur needed a $175 overhaul. This was a completely operational, running shutter. I just wanted it cleaned and lubed for my own peace of mind. Carol brought it back to A-1 service for $50!.
    If he wasn't curmugeounly I wouldn't trust him. I'll check out both places this weekend (or at least the Oakland place if it's open. Thanks for the info.

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