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    Same as yours above, but at the initial insertion, the hangers are lifted out and allowed to drop into the prewet a few times banging them as you go to dislodge bubbles on the surface of the film.

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    Have you had success with TMX and TMY? They seemed far more prone to agitation issues, particularly through the edge holes in the hangers....

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    I have not done them in 4x5 yet although I have a 100 sheet box of TMX in the freezer right now. I have only done 35mm and 120 rolls. In fact, my last run of these, I ran them both at the same time and used D-76. I split the difference in development time, which was about 1/2 minute IIRC. I would have to look it up, but the prints looked fine.

    Sorry, I just realized that the roll films were not TMX and TMY. My memory was jogged just after this post.

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    Last edited by Photo Engineer; 07-29-2008 at 04:43 PM. Reason: Error in post.

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    Not sure why people are getting so worked up about Kodak tanks. Also, why all the posts in the past tense? Three gallon tanks are, were, will be and remain a very practical way of processing sheet and roll film with a replenishable developer even if Kodak stopped making them years ago. (Others have since then.) Fine also for one shot. A 500ml bottle of Rodinal is perfect to make up a whole tank. Uneveness? Then practise your agitation technique perhaps combined with a pre wash tank. 18 rolls of 120 or 26 sheets of 5x4 or 13 sheets of 10x8 in one go. If you have the right cages, a combination of the above is possible. (Having said that, I still prefer to process 35mm in hand tanks to prevent surge marks.) If you are processing a few sheets or rolls here and there, they are not the most economical or the most practical, but for larger volumes, they really do work, and with clean s/s spirals, 120 film is very good edge to edge. Likewise for 5x4, but the agitation is very important.

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    Having just read the oroiginal post, you really need tanks for dev, stop, fix and at least one wash tank. (Preferably two.) There should also be one other tank dedicated for wetting agent though it is possible to add it to the final wash. For small usuage, 3 gallon tanks are rather expensive and take up lots of room, but great if you have large batches. You can also find half size tanks which could be a good compromise. You could always convert your tanks, after a visit to the plumbers, to wash tanks for film.

    Speaking of such things, I remember at college in the first term, we were showh how to process 5x4 in the Kodak tanks. One student who had missed the lesson, reckoned it must be a very similar method to processing roll film in a Paterson tank. (Lift the developing tank, agitate, tap the base etc.) Being a big strong lad, and using both hands, he treated the kodak tank in the same manner. There was a lot of noise; grunting, splashing and heaving coming from the process room. This method is not recommended!!!

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    There is a special SS wash tank with fittings for hoses. At EK we drilled a hole in the bottom of a hard rubber tank and put in a pipe fitting to use as a wash tank. Water goes in at the bottom and overflows the top. There is a sparger to spread the water evenly over the bottom and allow it to rise all through the hangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Crawford View Post
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    Not sure why people are getting so worked up about Kodak tanks. Also, why all the posts in the past tense? Three gallon tanks are, were, will be and remain a very practical way of processing sheet and roll film
    Of course, and a tank (or set of tanks) is a lifetime investment, as they do not wear out, unless they are dropped and crack. But...I don't think anyone currently makes any 3.5 gallon hard rubber or plastic tanks, hence the Past-tence. Plenty to be found on the used market, though. The 3.5 gallon tank is my preferred method of sheet film processing up to 8x10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHOTOTONE View Post
    Of course, and a tank (or set of tanks) is a lifetime investment, as they do not wear out, unless they are dropped and crack. But...I don't think anyone currently makes any 3.5 gallon hard rubber or plastic tanks, hence the Past-tence. Plenty to be found on the used market, though. The 3.5 gallon tank is my preferred method of sheet film processing up to 8x10.
    Point taken, though in the UK, Richards of Hull are still making handlines.
    http://www.richards.uk.com/
    They are lovely bits of hardware and as you say will last a life time. In fact I'm just off to process some 120 right now in deep tanks so time to get off this computer!

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