Need 8x10 wide lens advice.
hello all. i am new to 8x10 (came from 4x5 and mamiya 7ii). I bought an 1980s vintage deardorff with 5 lenses for 2300usd, and i have a selection of lenses that i will keep. But the 165mm schneider if way too heavy and will most likely sell.
what i need help with i what are good wide lenses that are not too heavy for 8x10?
I assume that 165mm Schneider is a Super Angulon, since you find it too heavy?
I use a 165mm Angulon, which however has a sligjt problem with 8x10 except at very small stops. It's really a 18x24cm lens. In the same series the 210mm Angulon is less wide, but provides plenty of coverage.
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These two are nice wides for 8x10, and they are quite small.
159mm (6-1/4") Wollensak
The tiny WA Protar's are excellent, I have Ross version a 151mm f16, it's tiny and despite it's maximum aperture of f16 remarkably easy to focus, it has room for movements on 10x8. The Zeiss version is f18, other focal lenghts were available. Ross and Zeiss shared some technology/designs etc pre-WWI, the WA Protar is a Zeiss Patent design that uses technology licensed from Ross. Some are marked EWA.
My Ross lens is a fraction maybe 1-2% of the weight of my 165mm SA
The little Wolly is a lovely lens, and gives lots of performance for a small, inexpensive lens. But it doesn't offer much coverage beyond 8x10, and needs to be stopped down. But it IS very good in the field !
I'm a big fan of the Series V (f/18) Protars, and they were made by Zeiss, Ross, Krauss, and Bausch and Lomb. Wonderful lenses.
Downside of the f/18 series is that they are very small, too small for shutters besides Volute, and are pretty rare. But a ND filter and a lens cap will work almost everytime.
Zeiss offered a Series IV (f.12.5) that was a little bigger and fit into a small shutter. They need to be stopped down, but are also extremely fine lenses.
In the rarer-but-you-never-know-what-will-turn-up category are the Dallmeyer, Cooke, Hugo Meyer, there are some others that I can't remember !~
You ought to be able to turn up some f/18 Protars if you need to.
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How wide do you want?
For 8x10 I use both a Rodenstock 240 Apo Sironar-S in Copal 3 shutter, large heavy lens but good coverage and a Schneider 150 Super Symmar XL in a Copal 0 shutter, for me a truly great lens with excellent coverage. Another large lens requiring 95mm filters. These are modern lenses at their finest but alas are not cheap, however coverage was my main priority with sharpness maintained right into the corners at max shift.
They work great with Packards.
Originally Posted by df cardwell
Here's what my "5x7" (about 135mm, I think) f/18 B&L Zeiss Protar will cover. The image was made on 11x14 film. You can see the vignette in the upper corners.
There's an 85mm version that would do about the same thing on 8x10. I have one now, but I used the 11x14 for this image because I hadn't got the 85 by that time.
Last edited by bowzart; 12-07-2008 at 12:18 PM. Click to view previous post history.
Reason: add 8x10 information
We're letting all the secrets out, shh !
Ooooops! What was I thinking? I'm not ready to sell them just yet.
Originally Posted by df cardwell