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    Graflex Guru's I need some help please...

    I was perusing the local Craig's List and ran across a listing for "An old camera $10.00". I looked at the photo and it was a Graflex 4x5" press camera though I couldn't tell what model from the photo. I called the guy and went over and bought it. It appears to be a Crown Graphic I think because it does not have the focal plane shutter but does have the rangefinder and a Graf-lok back. Someone closed the camera before the lens and rails were in the right position and now the rear rails are slightly higher than the front rails and the focus won't work. There is a little rod that sticks out on the bottom lower left of the body near the lens that appears to be bent.

    My questions:
    1. How do you remove the graf-lok back? I have slid both rails on the back to the unlock position but nothing seems to come loose.
    2. Is this a Crown Graphic? I thought those did not come with the Graf-lok back. At least my other Graflex which was sold to me as a Crown model did not have it.

    This camera did not come with a lens but I have a 135 mm for it with the other camera. This body is in much better shape and I would like to get this one back into working order.
    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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    Nice find! Try unlocking the front standard and racking the focus rails completely off the camera, then back on.
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    To take off the GG back, press doen on both the silver levers on the right hand side, and slide the back right.
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    AIM me at "easmithv", I'll be glad to try and walk you through it.
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    Moving the slide locks on the back should let you remove the ground glass focusing plane and the viewing hood, not the Graflok back. There are two screws; one top center and one bottom center. Removing these two screws will allow you to remove the Graflok back, which is basically a frame with quick releases to allow easy swapping of sheet film back and roll film adapters.

    If there is no focal plane shutter it is almost certainly a Crown, unless it is a Super Seed Graphic. You have a top mounted rangefinder so that's a possibility. The top slide lock for the lens board should say Crown Graphic or Speed Graphic. Try this link for a pretty good explanation of the different backs. http://www.xs4all.nl/~lommen9/holders/index.html

    Good luck with the rails. Tuscon should have a camera shop that has someone familiar with press cameras.

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    Thanks for all the replies so far. Even with the detailed instructions sent to me I have not been able to remove the ground glass as yet. But as one person pointed out this does not remove the graf-lok back. To remove that there are six screws which is what I really want to do. I need to remove the bellows entirely to get at the rear rails and find out why they are sitting higher than the rails on the front swing down panel. I can see they were forced up when the camera was closed improperly but I don't see why they remain too high.

    I just got the ground glass off. No problem. But as I said I need to do a lot more dis assembly to get at where I need to look.
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    Try rolling it out a bit, unlocking the bed braces, and while tilting the bed up a little bit, rolling the focus frame back in.

    I closed it once wrong by mistake when I first got the camera, and this fix worked for me.
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    After a closer look I can see what the problem is clearly. It is as I thought. Someone tried to close the front panel when the focus rail was not in the "close" position. This bent the rear left in body rail and to some degree the right one up about a 1/16th of and inch. The front moving rails are connected to the rear by a link on each side and with the rear rails pushed up as they are this freezes the front moving rail. I think what I am going to do is use the focus rail system from my other Crown Graphic on this body which is in much better shape. The push rod for the rangefinder system is also bent. If I can successfully straighten it then I think the rangefinder will works as well. Considering it's age this camera body is in very good shape.
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    I suggest you take a look at this site. Scroll down and look for a link to "Graflex manuals." You might find something useful:

    http://www.southbristolviews.com/index.html

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