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    An interesting, and I believe, related BBC article....

    "The brain represents tools as extensions to the body, according to researchers writing in Current Biology."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8112873.stm

    Another interesting observation -- as I work in a totally dark room, loading film, etc, I can "see" my hands at work -- that is, I can perceive their position in space. I still cannot see the objects, such as the lid to the developing tank, so it does not do me a lot of good...

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    At least with LF landscape, a bad day of photography can still be a good day of exercise.

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    I don't really notice that image is upside down.
    When i see something iteresting to photograph, i frame it just on my brains and choose the lens that i know to have same field of view.

    Haven't noticed my composition any better than with prism view finders or waist level finders.
    I tend to do always same mistakes by composing too much by the old rules like a golden ratio (is it right term in english?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usagi View Post
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    I don't really notice that image is upside down.
    When i see something iteresting to photograph, i frame it just on my brains and choose the lens that i know to have same field of view.

    Haven't noticed my composition any better than with prism view finders or waist level finders.
    I tend to do always same mistakes by composing too much by the old rules like a golden ratio (is it right term in english?).
    I think that you mean the rule of thirds.

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    I though it was the two-fifths rule.

    Weird: In photo classes, I have learned it as the "rule of thirds", while in art history classes, I learned "the golden proportion as "the two-fifths rule".

    Ah, fergit the rules. You own the mofo, so you make your own rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2F/2F View Post
    I though it was the two-fifths rule.

    Ah, fergit the rules. You own the mofo, so you make your own rules.
    Your own rules work the best.

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    I leave the digital work for the urologists and proctologists.

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    There is a "rule of thirds" and a different "golden mean" rule, there are also as many other rules of composition as you wish to make up or search out in books on art. As has been said before, it's great to have so many standards from which to choose.

    It's either one size fits all, or one size gives us all fits.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Nebenzahl View Post
    I knew someone would bring this up.

    Yes, that's the way our optical sensory system works. But it sure as hell doesn't mean that viewing a scene upside down is "natural"; the view is 180 degrees out of whack, unless one is standing on their head.

    Oh, well. People like to rationalize all kinds of stuff. Who am I to stand in their way?

    Why would you insist that what you experience is THE norm and the rest of us are a bunch of irrational lunatics. Get real. It has been years since I looked at a ground glass and my brain told me the picture was upside down. Get over yourself.
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