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    Perhaps we are missing something else, Enlarger size, these were sold as:

    These fell into:
    35mm (828/126),
    120 - Medium Format
    Large format 5x4 - 10x8

    It's no coincidence that these are the formats Peter mentions above, and used by professionals and serious amateurs. Formats like 828 & Instamatic were never taken seriously despite Kodak's attempts make high end camera's, 126 fit SLR's went the ame way as later APS SLR's people preferred 35mm.

    In addition film sizes were categorised by camera manufacturers advertising.marketing as well as technical authors in books & magazines.

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    I think Kodak at least took 126/Instamatic very seriously.

    And seeing the numbers they sold, in what short span of time, rightly so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q.G. View Post
    I think Kodak at least took 126/Instamatic very seriously.

    And seeing the numbers they sold, in what short span of time, rightly so.
    Maybe but the types of photographers using them were at the bottom end of the market, and Kodak later sold 110 then disc camera, then APS to that same people.

    Just like Box brownies etc before them none of the cameras catered for serious amateurs and professionals, despite the odd quality cameras from other manufacturers. That isn't the same as saying they weren't a serious business proposition for the manufacturers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    11x14 or the UK size 12x15 ...
    I would have expected you to tell us that the UK sizes were 14x11 and 15x12

    Perhaps you can refresh our memories why there is a difference between 4x5 and 5x4.

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    Perhaps, Ian is getting Americanized ...

    What would his mother think??

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    Nothing beats a great piece of glass!

    I leave the digital work for the urologists and proctologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Perhaps, Ian is getting Americanized ..

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    Not much chance of that.

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    Wow, so many formats over the decades. The definitions of small, medium and large have changed as well over the decades. Very interesting thread. Lots to think about.

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    If it takes two hands to handle that wopper, it's ULF. If it uses a sheet film holder, it's LF. If it takes roll film, it's MF. If it uses a cassette, it's small format. If it uses a cartridge, it's miniature (or not worth shooting).

    Pretty simple. Sometimes my 3x4 Graflex rb is a MF camera, sometimes it's a LF camera, same as my rb67.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_jupiter View Post
    If it takes two hands to handle that wopper, it's ULF. If it uses a sheet film holder, it's LF. If it takes roll film, it's MF. If it uses a cassette, it's small format. If it uses a cartridge, it's miniature (or not worth shooting).

    Pretty simple. Sometimes my 3x4 Graflex rb is a MF camera, sometimes it's a LF camera, same as my rb67.

    tim in san jose
    What about 70mm film in cassettes, and aerial (10" wide) roll film?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    Perhaps you can refresh our memories why there is a difference between 4x5 and 5x4.
    When I posted something on f295.org a few years ago containing 5x4 instead of 4x5, someone commented that we must take more landsacpe format pictures in the UK.

    Strangely, although I alway say 5x4, I use 8x10 and 10x8 equally.


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