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    What would be interesting would be to use a Pocket Wizard or similar set-up on the Speed/Crown, synced to a bunch of strobes lighting up the whole room.

    You could do the whole cigar-chomping thing and have a well lit room on a toasty big neg.

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    The larger than 5/25 flashbulbs ive used havent been so great/reliable
    11's were less powerful than 25/5's ..dulled in time for whatever reason
    even had a few duds while never having a single 25/5 fail
    only a couple hundred bulbs, though.
    My favorites are the M3s but I use em open flash

    I'd be sure the 11's are putting out No11 light or else you're just losing space

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    Quote Originally Posted by sun of sand View Post
    The larger than 5/25 flashbulbs ive used havent been so great/reliable
    11's were less powerful than 25/5's ..dulled in time for whatever reason
    even had a few duds while never having a single 25/5 fail
    only a couple hundred bulbs, though.
    My favorites are the M3s but I use em open flash

    I'd be sure the 11's are putting out No11 light or else you're just losing space
    Agreed. I have 8 No.25b's and since all I am shooting is 8 photographs, I'll go with that. There not as big as the No.11's either, so it's more pocket friendly.

    Now, if I had like... 100 bulbs laying around, I would do a test with each and see which one I liked better... But, as I only have about 20 total...
    - J. Richard
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRichard View Post
    I think I'm going to go with f8, 1/25, #25b bulb, set the rail at the 15' mark. I think also that I will push the HP5+ to 800.
    You're more than likely going ot be disappointed unless you are shooting lanscapes with no appreciable foreground. Here's what my old Kodak flash bulb exposure guide (1977 Kodak Professional Photogiude, page 23 -- my "savior" for computing proper flash bulb exposure) says for those settings:

    Effective guide number, with no shutter speed factor included = 800
    Proper exposure at: 90 ft.

    You have to remember that those bulbs are small but have a LOT of light in them.

    Here are some settings from the photoguide to consider (at 400 ASA):
    Effective GN = 500 (no shutter speed factor correction).
    f/22 for shots where principal subject is 22 ft away (that ought to be easy to remember)
    f/32 when principal subject is 16 ft away.
    f/16 when subject is 31 ft away.
    f/11 when (bla bla) is 45 ft away.

    Personally speaking... I worry about properly lighting the principal subject and let the background fall however it falls. I also find slower film is always better for flash bulb photography.

    If you really anticipate shooting a subject at 15', which is highly realistic at a wedding, you can do that at f/22 with 200 ASA film... or f/16 with 100... or f/11 with "WeeGee's special 50 ASA film".
    Last edited by BrianShaw; 09-14-2009 at 07:23 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Oh... that also assumes a polished eep-bowl reflector, like the Graflex 5 inch.

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    Ooops... I missed the fact that you'll be using 25b, not 25. You need to include a 1-stop penalty for the "blue" from what I said in post 24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteymorange View Post
    There's a ver-sails Connecticut too.
    And I have always heard the saying as "f8 and be there."
    So have I.
    Charles Hohenstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Corneau View Post
    What would be interesting would be to use a Pocket Wizard or similar set-up on the Speed/Crown, synced to a bunch of strobes lighting up the whole room.

    You could do the whole cigar-chomping thing and have a well lit room on a toasty big neg.
    *******
    Baggy pants; floppy fedora with a press card stuck in the band; forty year old brogans, worn down at the heels; do not change clothes, shower, shave, wash, or bathe for several weeks: THEN, ya gotz all of the Weegee "F/11 and bein' there routine.
    John, Mount Vernon, Virginia USA

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    Ok, so f22. Good.

    I will be using a 5" (maybe it's 7?) reflector. I'm going to go ahead with the HP5+, as it's what I have currently in bulk.

    I guess I should say I'm not shooting portraits here. Going for standard "Press" type shots.

    Like this:
    http://www.710kmpc.com/Large%20Photo...rty%201961.jpg
    http://www.childrenshome.us/images/C...940s-Small.jpg

    And, I realised there not 25B-lue... there #25 with a blue dot. In the wrong box...
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    Would you like faster shutter speeds? The corrections for shutter speed, assuming 25 or 11 bulb are:

    1/25 = .9
    1/50 = .8
    1/100 = .7
    1/200 = .6
    1/400 = .4

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