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    Have a sniff around the forums here - you'll find a few examples of people using the F series cameras outdoors also ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick mulder View Post
    Have a sniff around the forums here - you'll find a few examples of people using the F series cameras outdoors also ...
    Yes, but i will use another camera rather than F for outside, each camera for different work, i acn use that Sinar F outside but it is not practical for outdoor, even i heard many who have this camera don't use it much for outdoors.

    Large format is a fun system as well, i will wait and see what i will end up with.

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    Well, ok - but just because many owners don't use it outdoors doesn't infer that it isn't suitable - they might simply not be into outdoor photography, or never thought to try it.

    So while I have your attention: I have, and it works Chuck a bag bellows on it and you've got some really nice combined tilt and rise/shift capability that you never get with a field camera. Also remember that the main bulk of a camera system isn't the black box - it is the combined weight of the same lenses, film holders and assorted gumph that you'd also be lugging around with your ultra light folder...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick mulder View Post
    Well, ok - but just because many owners don't use it outdoors doesn't infer that it isn't suitable - they might simply not be into outdoor photography, or never thought to try it.

    So while I have your attention: I have, and it works Chuck a bag bellows on it and you've got some really nice combined tilt and rise/shift capability that you never get with a field camera. Also remember that the main bulk of a camera system isn't the black box - it is the combined weight of the same lenses, film holders and assorted gumph that you'd also be lugging around with your ultra light folder...
    hmmmmmmm, interesting!!!

    OK, i should read more about it and get better information about LF, but ofcourse once i start to use it, by the time i will get used to it, if you and many there did, why can't we?!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TareqPhoto View Post
    Ok, forget about the body and lens as i will try to give more deep search and reading about it, and about the link you posted of large format forum in fact i am registered there a while ago and asked questions there but didn't get straight forward direct answers, it is like no one want to give their own answers and telling me to search about the answers myself, then why i ask questions if i can find everything by myself.

    Let's make it in another simplier way,

    Large format System:
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    Body: I will see what i will choose

    Lens: what brands should i stay with, don't worry about the price, it depends on my if i will go with that or used, just recommend me one or 2 brands that are the top in your opinion and then it is up to me

    Lens shade: what is that? and is there any brand you prefer or also there are many and i have to get lost to choose which?

    Filters: i think i have idea about filters, i have books about filters and i have some already so i will give it more reading.

    Meter: Do you mean light meter? if so then i have Sekonic L-758DR, is it good to use with large format or any film camera or you recommend something else?

    Film holders: any recommendation will be fine

    Film Media: will see which sheet or slide i will go with, i will choose few to start and stay with, in color for landscapes i know one already that i like.

    Tripod: I have almost 5 tripods, is there any model i should go with?

    Something else: open to give me your advise and recommendations.

    Top of the line, price no object, folding 8x10 view camera and one lens:

    Wood-- http://www.ebonycamera.com/cam/main.SW810U.SW810UE.html

    Metal-- http://www.toyoview.com/Products/810MII/810MII.html

    Composite-- http://www.lg4mat.net/LFcamera.html

    Lens--- Schneider 300mm f5.6 APO-Symmar-L or Rodenstock 300mm f5.6 APO-Sironar-S

    Either of these in a Copal #3 shutter mounted on a lens board to fit the camera chosen.

    Meters-- Pentax digital spot meter and/or what you have if it has a 1degree spot capability

    Lens shades and filters-- http://www.leefiltersusa.com/camera/

    Film Holders-- Toyo or Fidelity

    Film-- Black and White-- Kodak 100 T-MAX or Tri-X 320
    Film-- Color-- Kodak Ektachrome 100 (EPP) or Fuji Provia 100F and/or Fuji Velvia 50

    Tripod-- Possibilities are endless, I use a Feisol CT-3371 and a Manfrotto 400 geared head

    Dark cloth-- BTZS Focusing Hood

    Loupe-- 50mm enlarging lens, such as a 50mm El Nikkor


    The reason that people are reluctant to give you answers to your questions is because almost everyone will come up with different answers to your list.

    At a minimum, at least study the following websites:

    http://www.largeformatphotography.info/

    http://www.ebonycamera.com/

    http://www.toyoview.com/


    Three books I would highly recommend you obtain and use:


    http://www.amazon.com/Using-View-Cam...5869560&sr=8-1

    http://www.amazon.com/Large-Format-P...869560&sr=8-12

    http://www.amazon.com/Camera-Ansel-A...5869721&sr=1-1

    Have fun!

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    This is too tempting not to chime in. jbbooks "top of the line" 8x10 list is good but I'll submit the following opinionated changes:

    Filters: B+W or Tiffin

    Film Holder: Lisco Regal (not Regal II) or Kodak Graflex

    Film b&w: Kodak TMY, Ilford FP-4+, Fuji

    Tripod: Ries

    Loupe: Silvestri 6x tilting

    Dark cloth: Have your bride sew one custom for you---just the way you want it
    to be! This might take several tries to get it "right." and most importantly:

    Humility: For when you see a photo taken with a beat up and patched wobbly gray B&J mounted on a cobbled up surveyors tripod and a Turner Reich triple convertible (with the requisite balsam seperation) barrel lens with a hat for a shutter and on dated film from God knows where stuffed in an old wooden Ansco holder, louped with an plastic Agfa (and a meter? What meter?) and it beats the pants off the best you've done.

    This is because photographs have no concept of the money spent to produce them nor respect the brand names that make photographers get all warm and fuzzy inside.
    Get out there and take photos!

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    A sturdy geared Tripod Head is a good idea - IMO the nicest one is the Manfrotto MN400 which can handle 10Kg - comfortably more than a 10x8 - http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/site/...lsf=80&child=4

    A Carbon Fibre or Baslat Tripod might be a good idea in the UAE - they get less uncomfotable hot to hold in the summer - http://www.gitzo.com/cms/site/gitzo/...DB77F9.worker1

    A Silver finished darkcloth is a must - although it will still get extreamly hot under there - the most swanky one is the Ebony one (with a price to match) - http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/product...1020&PT_ID=163

    Ebony make some of the nicest wooden field cameras at a price to match - http://www.ebonycamera.com/

    Before you choose a camera you need to decide what you are most likely to take with it - as the choice of focal lenght of lenses will affect your camera choice.

    Also, you need to think how far are you likely to want to carry it - they are seriously heavy pieces of kit with all the paraphenalia needed.

    Martin

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    now heres some great advice, i personally subscribe to the black hat and flash durations shutter.

    cheap older the better lenses in barrels preferably with damage and fogging

    even cheaper old style film, era, shangers, foma

    foamcore and tape construction

    if it aint cheap then it aint mine lol

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    I have Gitzo Tripods from series 1 up tp series 5 which can hold up to 25kg, is that enough?
    So surprise that the most three LF brands i was looking at are: Ebony,, Toyo, and that from Richard Ritter [which i said before about customized LF, i was meaning him].
    Once i will decide on which one i will go then definitely i will choose a lens, film holder, loupe, dark cloth,....
    I have Sekonic L-758DR, is it a good light meter to be used with film cameras?

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    Yup, the L-758DR will work very well - set up a camera profile for your new camera...
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