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    esPhoto, you are trying too hard to do the best thing. There's a law of nature to the effect that the first 4x5 camera is always the wrong 4x5 camera, regardless of what it is. Just get a Crown and use it.

    After a while you'll learn what you really need to do that it can't and which aspects of using it really bother you. Then you'll be better prepared to look for a 4x5 camera that suits you. And if you don't pay too much for the Crown you should be able to sell it at no or only a small loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    esPhoto, you are trying too hard to do the best thing. There's a law of nature to the effect that the first 4x5 camera is always the wrong 4x5 camera, regardless of what it is. Just get a Crown and use it.

    After a while you'll learn what you really need to do that it can't and which aspects of using it really bother you. Then you'll be better prepared to look for a 4x5 camera that suits you. And if you don't pay too much for the Crown you should be able to sell it at no or only a small loss.
    Too right. Love that philosophy, Dan.
    Being a natural hoarder, I don't think I will end up with just one camera anyway ...

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    If you can get a Crown Graphic at a decent price like Dan says go for it, it'll be a good introduction to 5x4 but don't pay over the odds for one, some sell for way over their true value.

    You might see if there's any LF users in your area you could meet up with who could show you some camera's maybe take you out shooting with them.

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    What would be the going price of a reasonably clean Crown ?
    Checked the bay and they go for around $400.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eSPhotos View Post
    What would be the going price of a reasonably clean Crown ?
    Checked the bay and they go for around $400.
    With or without the lens? Film holders?
    Check KEH.com and the classifieds here and http://www.largeformatphotography.in...splay.php?f=27

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    Yep with lens (Xenar preferred) but without film holders.
    KEH has a few bargain grade ranging $200-$300 without the lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eSPhotos View Post
    What would be the going price of a reasonably clean Crown ?
    Checked the bay and they go for around $400.
    Izzat completed sales or optimistic sellers asking prices?
    Heavily sedated for your protection.

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    A couple of good looking cams from completed sales went 400sh. There are cheaper (read rough) ones went for a lot less.
    Of course there are optimistic sellers too but I think I can pin point them ...

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    A press camera is not a view camera, it is what it is. Some other press type cameras such as the Busch have revolving backs and more front movement, and then there are Linlof's and Horseman's and Superspeeds and Crowns. I have both a Speed and Crown 4X5s and a view camera. I like my Crown as I can use high speed film and hand hold it or use a monopod while hiking or for street work. My Speed is held togeather by duck tape and payer, I will take it anywhere. A speed or crown does not replace a view camera. I also find that my Crown with a couple of lens and 4 or 5 flim holders is lighter than my Kowa Super 66 with 3 lens.

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    "A press camera is not a view camera, it is what it is"

    If you are looking at a focusing glass that is being illuminated directly by the lens, then it is a view camera. Most press cameras (even my Mamiyas) have this option, therefore I disagree with your classification of them as non view cameras.
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