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    You could buy a roll film back and shoot 6x6 and still have all your LF perspective controls.

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    There are other ways to block the light from hitting the film. As any LF shooter with a drooping bellows can tell you.

    Before you start cutting any dark slides. Try putting a piece of matboard in the rear standard of the LF camera. If its an 8x10, then put a 1x8 inpiece at the top and bottom of the 10 inch side. Then you'd have an 8x8 centered on the ground glass.

    I've been wanting to do this with a board with a circle cut in it fit into the camera back. Then I can shoot with any lens and make a round image on the film. Just have to stop working long enough to start with this new idea.......
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    Rob an aerial camera out of an airplane. They're 9 1/2 X 9 1/2" :'()

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeg
    You could buy a roll film back and shoot 6x6 and still have all your LF perspective controls.
    Can you use hasselblad 6x6 backs on any LF cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by wfwhitaker
    Otherwise it's a lot simpler to crop during enlarging
    I'm not really noted for taking the simple option ;-)

    Actually I like printing square and full frame, showing the borders a lot of the time.

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    I have had bad experiences with cutting holds in dark slides. The problem came in when pushing\pulling the cut darks slide thru the septum. It can get hung up in there and tear the septum and make the holder non-light safe after that. I think masking is the way to go. with 4x5, just mask off 1/2 inch on the long side so that you get 4x4 on the groundglass. When you enlarge, just enlarge to 8x8, 12x12, etc.

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    Why not just cut one of the dark slides to 1 inch in length? It could be your mask for every shot. When you take out the regular dark slide, you insert the new really short one. That way it masks just the very top of the negative. No worries about a mask bending or having problems. No worries if you pull the dark slide out only so far and hope it squares up. No worries about finding a MF back to fit your LF camera. Cheap and you only need one. Ok hare brained idea number 2389 over.
    Non Digital Diva

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    Oh dear Aggie, you might have just nailed it. Since 4x4 looks possible one way or other I'm going to take the plunge in the new year. I fancy a Sinar F1 or F2 perhaps.

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    I still prefer masking on the groundglass, exposing the full negative and cropping during enlargement. You never know when that UFO or Elvis would have shown up in that 1 inch of film that you're not exposing........

    Also, with the 1-inch darkslide the image is always offset. You'll have to shift the front\rear to be sure the center of the 4x4 area is centered with the optical axis of the lens, right? Of course, you'll have to raise\lower if shooting a vertical. That takes away a little of the camera movements just to re-center the optical axis.

    Anyway, I just loaded a bunch of 5x7 holders with EFKE 100 and I'm off to Yosemite in the morning (about 5 hours of sleep from now). I found a real nice 1000 feet of granite that I need to catch in the right light. I can see another gallery post in the near future...

    Take care.

    -Mike

    P.S. Hi Aggie!

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    Mike if you are still in the area this Saturday, there is a party at Geary's house to celebrate his new darkroom. Quite a few of us from apug will be there.
    Non Digital Diva

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    Make a mask darkslide (ie: a darkslide with most of the slide removed)
    The bender camera system uses a similar darkslide to get 4x10s on 8x10 sheets...
    Why not just cut one of the dark slides to 1 inch in length? It could be your mask for every shot. When you take out the regular dark slide, you insert the new really short one. That way it masks just the very top of the negative.
    That's what I was talking about... "A darkslide with most of the slide removed"

    This is why I referenced the bender site...

    http://www.benderphoto.com/4x10pa.htm

    the darkslide would have to be 1" + the amount still in the top of the holder...


    joe

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