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    Coming to grips with people getting older

    I shoot large format because of my father. Holding the 4x5 transparencies along side the 35mm ones was a revelation at a young age. I was enlisted in lugging my father's tripod while he hauled his box with the orbit. That was one heavy tripod for a 10 year old. He sold the Orbit when I was in high school, to fund a lighter camera system after his first knee replacement and did not get another 4x5 until I got into it. Then he had his first and second heart attacks then the stroke. Some where in there was another knee replacement, rotator cuff surgery and now an operation on his thumb. A couple of weeks ago he called me and asked if I wanted his large format stuff. I offered to buy it and he said no, then I offered to sell it for him so he could at least get another lens for his Nikon digital thingy. I admit that I got teary eyed when he said he wanted someone in the family to use it. Someone who would respect what it could accomplish.

    This weekend he showed me everything that was in the case and I was happy to see that he had sold two of his lenses to cover at least part of a new lens for the digital thingy. I asked several times if he was sure and offered to carry his tripod again, hell carry the whole system. Set it up, and let him do the rest.

    I am now the owner of a Cambo S2 one lens a couple of accessories a tripod and a heavy heart.

    Just getting something off my chest.
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    So, I think the "greats" were true to their visions, once their visions no longer sucked. Ralph Barker 12/2004

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark View Post
    I shoot large format because of my father. Holding the 4x5 transparencies along side the 35mm ones was a revelation at a young age. I was enlisted in lugging my father's tripod while he hauled his box with the orbit. That was one heavy tripod for a 10 year old. He sold the Orbit when I was in high school, to fund a lighter camera system after his first knee replacement and did not get another 4x5 until I got into it. Then he had his first and second heart attacks then the stroke. Some where in there was another knee replacement, rotator cuff surgery and now an operation on his thumb. A couple of weeks ago he called me and asked if I wanted his large format stuff. I offered to buy it and he said no, then I offered to sell it for him so he could at least get another lens for his Nikon digital thingy. I admit that I got teary eyed when he said he wanted someone in the family to use it. Someone who would respect what it could accomplish.

    This weekend he showed me everything that was in the case and I was happy to see that he had sold two of his lenses to cover at least part of a new lens for the digital thingy. I asked several times if he was sure and offered to carry his tripod again, hell carry the whole system. Set it up, and let him do the rest.

    I am now the owner of a Cambo S2 one lens a couple of accessories a tripod and a heavy heart.

    Just getting something off my chest.
    Trust me, the day will come that when you use that camera your heart will fly. It's the way of things, if you're lucky.

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    Use it to make you father proud. I know that I would be exhilarated if one of my children took up my camera equipment and carried on where I left off.
    Thy heart -- thy heart! -- I wake and sigh,
    And sleep to dream till day
    Of the truth that gold can never buy
    Of the bawbles that it may.

    www.silverhalidephotography.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark View Post
    I admit that I got teary eyed when he said he wanted someone in the family to use it. Someone who would respect what it could accomplish.

    I am now the owner of a Cambo S2 one lens a couple of accessories a tripod and a heavy heart.

    Just getting something off my chest.
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    I have to admit, that I got teary eyed reading this.
    Makes me wish that I had spent more time with my son, and teaching him how to use the cameras.
    Instead of working more, so that I could make more money, so that I could buy more tools, to work more,
    to make more money, to buy more tools, so that I could work more, to make more money ... WTF ???

    One morning before leaving for work, I opened his bedroom door to take a look at the kid,
    He was almost the same length as the bed ... Now he is gone.

    Now I'm living in a house full of emptiness, except for the cameras.
    Now I buy more cameras to fill the emptiness.

    Thanks for reminding me to share my enthusiasm for what I love, with the people I love !
    Maybe I'll start with a slideshow !

    Just Getting Something Off My Chest

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    My oldest two have no desire to share in the joy I find in photography. But I take solice in knowing that my 10 year old son finds it fascinating to the point that just today he was pointing out photo opps for us. He jumped at the suggestion that he and I go out and shoot this week.
    Thy heart -- thy heart! -- I wake and sigh,
    And sleep to dream till day
    Of the truth that gold can never buy
    Of the bawbles that it may.

    www.silverhalidephotography.com

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    If it's too late for the kids, try the grandkids (as soon as their old enough to carry a tripod).
    If I had been present at the creation, I would have given some useful hints for the better arrangement of the Universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M.A.Longmore View Post
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    I have to admit, that I got teary eyed reading this.

    . . .

    One morning before leaving for work, I opened his bedroom door to take a look at the kid,
    He was almost the same length as the bed ... Now he is gone.

    Now I'm living in a house full of emptiness, except for the cameras.
    Now I buy more cameras to fill the emptiness.

    Thanks for reminding me to share my enthusiasm for what I love, with the people I love !
    Maybe I'll start with a slideshow !

    Just Getting Something Off My Chest

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    Good morning, Ron;

    Do not be too hard on yourself. At least you still have the cameras. When the mother of my children decided that she no longer wanted to be a wife, she kept just about everything except me, my 1970 Ford van, and my education. She kept the 1975 Ford F-350 One Ton Pickup Truck for hauling her horses, and the house, and the kids. Somehow, my photographic equipment just seemed to "disappear" during the time when the court was deciding what they were going to do, and I had no access to the house and my possessions. Later, she and her current husband also developed some really different attitudes about me and my children. I no longer got to see them either. The child support continued unabated. It took me a while to learn that my taking complaints to the court always resulted in my losing more of the few remaining things I had left.

    So, I lost not only the cameras, but also the children. I have since replaced the cameras with substitutes, but I know they are substitutes. Ron, you still have your cameras. They can be much kinder to you in how they treat you, and they do not just ignore any requests to even talk with you. Through an absolutely weird chance encounter with a friend of my youngest son, I learned that he has been married and he has three or possibly four children now.

    Enjoy using your cameras for taking photographs of things you like.
    Enjoy;

    Ralph Javins, Latte Land, Washington

    There is no digital effect or computer program or an "add-on" or "plug-in" for Adobe PhotoShop Creative Suite 5,
    that can simulate or equal watching the magic that happens in the developing tray when you can turn on the safe light,
    and see the image begin to faintly form on the print and come up on the paper in the developing tray.

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    What a thoughtful and well expressed thread for a bunch of men!

    It's of course nicest when someone in the family shows a liking of photography, but it's not critical. Someone to share photography with and pass on skills with is good. If it's not your kids, perhaps some scouts, grandkids, volunteering somewhere, etc...

    It's nice to see some gear passed on in the family and used; it's a nicer situation than having the gear end up on ebay or clist. I'm young and don't have the hindsight some in this thread have, but I feel like a part of picture as I've bought stuff from aging photographers, many widowers of photographers, etc... The widows have been happy seeing a young person take an interest in using their husbands prized gear.

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    Last year I answered an add on CL for a Rodenstock folder. I ended up with a large cache of cameras non of them remarkable in their own right but for the Rodenstock. The story behind them was. The woman selling them had inherited them from her father who had been an avid amateur photographer and she had a load of pictures that he had taken of the family over the years. The Rodenstock being the only real jewel in the collection needed a complete overhaul and so I sent it to Ken Ruth for repair. Part of the deal that I made with her was that when I got the camera back I would do portraits of her and her grandchildren with the camera so that she would have one last set of pictures from her fathers favorite camera. The problem is, now I have the camera back but have since lost her number due to a cell phone malfunction. Isn't it ironic?
    Thy heart -- thy heart! -- I wake and sigh,
    And sleep to dream till day
    Of the truth that gold can never buy
    Of the bawbles that it may.

    www.silverhalidephotography.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitstik View Post
    Use it to make you father proud. I know that I would be exhilarated if one of my children took up my camera equipment and carried on where I left off.
    My daughter that is 12yo, today informed me how she WANTS to do the yearbook/clubs section for her schooll
    And believe me, anytime she gets excited about something connected to her school not to mention an extracurricular activity is a rare day at her age

    She recently second shot a wedding with me also.

    (we need a proud pappy icon)

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