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    Just tilt your paper under the enlarger. You'll get more out-of-focus entertainment than you ever thought possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    Just tilt your paper under the enlarger. You'll get more out-of-focus entertainment than you ever thought possible
    there you go keith !

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    Just tilt your paper under the enlarger. You'll get more out-of-focus entertainment than you ever thought possible
    And it looks different than when you do it in the camera. Actually presoak your paper so it is all floppy and drape it over stuff on your baseboard. You'll get some wild stuff. Works better if you have a couple of scotches first.
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    Thanks all for the continuing vibrant discussion!

    I've been out of commission with the flu for the past couple of days, but I wanted to share some shots I found on Flickr that illustrate what a press camera is capable of, at least for portraiture. Again, my apologies for my unfamiliarity with the terms used to describe movements and their effects, but there looks like there's *something* going on in these shots beyond just bokeh. Or, maybe it's just my imagination. Per the photographer, these were all shot with an Graflex Speed Graphic | Aero Ektar 7" f2.5:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenny_ip/5903877583/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenny_ip/6064620679/

    I don't even want to know how hard it is to focus, handheld or mounted, an f/2.5 lens in large format. I had, and sold, a Helios 40-2 because it was quite possibly the most frustrating lens I've ever used -- so many near-misses with focus, even using a tripod, and shooting with a Spotmatic II (which has a darn-fine, bright view).

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    The first flickr photo looks pretty straight without tilt/shift/swing. Swing could be used on this to keep both hands in focus if they were in different planes, as the tilt turns into swing when the camera is put on it's side.

    The second photo shows classic scheimpflug tilt, but with the camera on the side it would be swing on the camera. My speed graphic does have some swing, but apparently other pacemakers don't. Here's a link how it's added: http://www.johndesq.com/graflex/swingmod.htm

    Shooting LF wide open is challenging. A tripod is helpful at keeping the camera in place. Otherwise the way you hold it to compose and focus might be a few inches different than how you hold it to expose the film. If the subject can stay still (unlike small children), that's a help. If you can put something down that won't show in the photo for them to reference, it's helpful. Such as a coin or golf tee, and tell them to put their big toe over it.

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    The Pacemaker Graphics only have up tilt, rise, & side-shift.

    However, strangely, that is not as much of a limit as it might seem. Turn the camera to vertical and that becomes swing. Turn the camera upside down and that becomes down tilt., very useful for landscapes.

    How do you do that? I use a Manfratto Heavy Duty 3D head, that allows me to position the camera about anyway I want on the tripod.

    OK, that is not the easiest way to do things, much better to have a real view camera with front and rear rise, shift, swing, and tilt. But, I use my Graphic 90% as a hand held camera, most serious view cameras do not work very well hand held. On the other hand, finances permitting, nothing says you can not have one of each. Or, a Super Techika or MPP which are press cameras with full movements. A compremise would be a Super Graphic or a Busch Pressman which have full front movements and revolving backs.

    In other words, there are workarounds, and other options to get what you want.

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