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    Does the intern have a drug habit, or brain damage, or something?

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    My last post... I have some technical certifications, a bachelor degree in photojournalism, and 3/4 of a Master's in Art... and never was the word Bokeh uttered till 2007 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    Hopefully this "shoot it wide open" fad will run it's course. It will be replaced by something equally stupid and annoying, though.
    She spoke about wanting to get Photoshop (complained it's too expensive) but want's to do "tilt shift" in photoshop....

    ......ANd she says she doesn't like JAZZ either... I listen to it all day.....

    ........ at least my 17 year-old and I have 1950-1970's Jazz, Steely Dan, Rush, and Yes in common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixcinater View Post
    Would not shallower-than-average DOF require better-than-average focusing?
    Good point. Those using it as a crutch, though, often focus haphazardly, writing it off to bokeh.

    They even sell filters to create shaped bokeh, for instance, hearts. At least the folks who buy those, usually have some idea of what they're trying to do. I've seen some folks who do nice work, especially around the holidays using bokeh as an element of their composition.

    When folks just want to copy something or use it as a crutch, though, it ends up not quite so nice. Often, even a casual observer can tell.

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    @jstout... the aperture assembly is probably the least expensive component of a lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vpwphoto View Post
    She spoke about wanting to get Photoshop (complained it's too expensive) but want's to do "tilt shift" in photoshop....

    ......ANd she says she doesn't like JAZZ either... I listen to it all day.....

    ........ at least my 17 year-old and I have 1950-1970's Jazz, Steely Dan, Rush, and Yes in common.
    me too, far out man
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    Quote Originally Posted by vpwphoto View Post
    ......ANd she says she doesn't like JAZZ either... I listen to it all day.....
    Now *that* is unforgivable. You should start playing John Zorn or Derek Bailey for her benefit.

    (Note: I love most of Zorn's work and find Bailey interesting if bewildering, but for someone in the "doesn't like jazz" camp, they'd be the soundtrack of hell.)

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    One thing often missed is what the actual size of the aperture is what determines the depth of field, regardless of focal length. 35mm lens at f/1.4 has the same depth of field as a 50mm at f/2 or a 150mm lens at about f/5.6 (f/6 is you wanna be picky). (35/1.4=25 and 50/2=25). So to say that everything is better at f/1.4 means absolutely nothing. Just as an aside.
    I like to photograph portraits at medium distance using that 25mm aperture, but it's too shallow when moving close, so I stop down. Or I don't freaking care and just shoot at an aperture that is practical, based on the lighting.

    As far as 'bokeh' is concerned - I absolutely hate all discussions about it. I start to itch all over and basically have to leave since I don't want to break out in the hives. I had better go, cause I can feel a severe rash coming on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    As far as 'bokeh' is concerned - I absolutely hate all discussions about it. I start to itch all over and basically have to leave since I don't want to break out in the hives. I had better go, cause I can feel a severe rash coming on...
    Too many folks talking about it in our modern world!

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    She says 1.4 bohka "is the best". ----

    I know a guy who fancies himself a bird photographer. He's not bad, actually.
    He showed me some photos of a fairly rare bird, in these parts. (Trumpeter swan. Itinerants that don't usually nest here.)
    It was a pretty good photo.

    But I took one look at it and asked him if he used a catadioptric lens.
    "A cata-what-ic?"
    "Catadioptric... Like a miniature telescope. With a mirror inside"
    "How did you know?"

    I told him that those mirror lenses are known to produce ring-shaped halos around highlights.

    "Oh, you mean bokeh," he said, "I thought that was cool."

    The guy knows his birds, though. Better than anybody else I know.
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