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    What's that camera? #2, and harder than Arnold's Yashica

    This one I really don't know. Here's the caption of the photo: The jazz pianist and composer Erroll Garner, foreground, in 1946 photographing a mixed-race couple dancing in a Paris club, a rare sight at home in the United States then.

    As a collector I know something about classic cameras from the 30's and 40's, but I also know that there were a lot of now-unknown manufacturers who made cameras in the post-war years for a while and then folded. What strikes me as odd is that it looks like a flat camera kind of like a much-later Rollei 16, one that does not use a normal 35mm cartridge. Also, you'd think that Erroll Garner could probably afford a pretty nice camera.

    Any thoughts?

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    What makes you date that photo at 1946?

    I would date it rather at 1960.

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    The camera is a GAMI 16

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    And here is the telltale back view:

    http://i.ebayimg.com/t/GaMi-16-submi...lrw~~-1_35.JPG





    EDIT:
    That photo is from the manual, it can thus be looked at the Butkus site in much better quality.
    Last edited by AgX; 06-01-2014 at 01:15 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    All the clothing, the hairdo of the women or the decoration do not fit France in 1946.

    Neither does the camera.

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    Doing a search on google.fr, in French, I find a report that Garner played the theatre Marigny in 1948, and it's well known he was there in the 50's. I agree that it's a bit hard to see Garner showing up in Paris within 12 or 18 months of the end of the war. The Gami reportedly came out in 1953, so it seems likely this photograph is from the 50's. My wife, who is a native French speaker, was born in the 1950's and has followed French fashion since her childhood, thinks this is from the 60's, based on the clothing and hair styles.

    Good eyes, AgX!

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    You don't how many glasses I've put on...


    But the essential thing is, never to trust the first sight. I wondered what 16mm camera of that look could have been used in 1946. And just then I looked at the surrounding scene and it became obvious that it does not fit 1946. Thus a chance to think of the heydays of such cameras.

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    So! What music were they dancing to?. Not style, but specific song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Koehrer View Post
    So! What music were they dancing to?. Not style, but specific song.
    And key!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AgX View Post
    The camera is a GAMI 16
    Good call.

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