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 Originally Posted by pentaxuser  I wonder if the same is true of Ilford paper? If so such retailers are letting Ilford down badly but are at least providing enterprising retailers the opportunity to put "clear water" between them and the others.
It has been noticeable that other than individuals selling "secondhand" paper on e-bay the "power sellers" are all asking higher prices than the regular web based mail order sites.
Maybe they think that bidders/buyers assume that all e-bay sellers offer bargain basement prices by virtue of it being e-bay. A simple trawl of the market place will soon destroy that illusion.
pentaxuser Very true. Apparently there is a school in Scotland who, recently, were worried about how they were going to finance the paper for the course because the price had gone up so much - they were being charged £37 for a 100 sheet pack of MGIV RC by a particular retailer! (not Jessops, although I think they are charging something like this now). Now you could say they should have shopped around, but I think this is just fleecing an academic institution.
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Matt My sentiments in spades. Unless Ilford have hiked prices quite ridiculously in recent months then it is some retailers who seem to be charging prices that can't be justfied. Quite frankly Ilford should be concerned. I can think of few better ways to dissuade newcomers to analogue photography. I forget Ilford's exact slogan but paraphrasing it means it intends to be the last company still supporting trad B&W work. If current trends were to continue( a box of Ilford WTFB 8x10 at nearly £70 plus postage on e-bay!) then the being the last( as in the sense of finished for good) may come true rather sooner than it was planning on.
pentaxuser
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( a box of Ilford WTFB 8x10 at nearly £70 plus postage on e-bay!)
- or around £50 from a retailer.
Tom
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Originally Posted by Tom Kershaw - or around £50 from a retailer.
Tom Which retailer? I've not seen it for less that about £60 anywhere recently.
Ian
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Ian
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Originally Posted by Stan160 The previous message was about Warmtone FB. If you can find that for £50 I will be very happy!
Ian There was WTRC from a powerseller in Sheffield(Sheffield Photcentre) on e-bay selling WTRC at £38 per 100 sheet box in the 8x10 size at a time( late April ) when the other major powerseller was asking almost £54. It obviously sold quickly and I haven't seen any since. However even if it was a one-off stock I am sure he wasn't selling at a loss. Seffield photocentre may have obtained it via a bargain basement deal and not from Ilford directly and it may not be in the business of selling paper normally or at least not on e-bay. However the quantities on sale suggested that it was a "wholesale item" and not just a few boxes obtained at fire sale prices from a one man business who was going under. Had it have been, then the one man business could done better via e-bay himself
It really raises the question of what is the price that gives the stockist a reasonable margin having bought from Ilford?
We are far from the economist's perfect competition scenario unfortunately where prices settle at about one level that allows "normal profits" only.
There's a roaring trade on e-bay in secondhand paper and it is hardly surprising given over the counter prices for new stock. Given the risks involved with old paper and unspecified dates and opened boxes no-one would ever bid other than a derisory amount if the difference in price between new and secondhand was reasonable but it isn't in my opinion.
pentaxuser
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More bad news
"Jessops releases another disappointing trading report, sales down
Sales at Jessops continue to fall as the UK's largest photographic retailer released another 'gloomy' report."
http://www.bjp-online.com/public/sho...ml?page=867733
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Originally Posted by pentaxuser
It really raises the question of what is the price that gives the stockist a reasonable margin having bought from Ilford?
pentaxuser
I'd have thought that as different dealers will have varying overheads, and may get the product from Harman at varying price levels, a 'reasonable margin' would be rather difficult to establish.
Tom
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How typical - the new CEO "leads" the company into crippling debt and gets a 500K pound bonus! He sings all the way to the bank, the company goes belly up, thousands lose their job, and he goes merrily on his way. 
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