I'm shocked!...shocked I tell you that you don't recognize the inspired spark of individuality in the work of these two masters. Why it's my guess that they probably won highest honors in their BFA or MFA portfolios and are already on the road to major recognition for finding their own voices so early in their careers. It's we stick-in-the-mud traditionalists who would force these blazing individualists to conform to our stodgy old fashioned habits of clean, elegant presentations. Shame on us!! Shame!!
Originally Posted by reellis67
I would suspect that most on APUG recognize the need for the highest quality, otherwise we wouldn't be here - we would go with the flow of whatever is easiest.
Originally Posted by jovo
Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb
I'm really glad to hear that, since I have some of your prints!
I too would only present the best that I could do, and if the shortfall is due to my own abilities that is one thing, but it seems inexcusable that someone would display something that was poorly crafted or damaged <cough> in any way due to what I can only attribute to carelessness/laziness. I have never created a masterwork print, but I certainly have never shown anyone something that I created that was not the best effort I was capable of at that time.
Mainly I just wanted to know if the standards were slipping in some way that I was not aware of, or if I was just expecting too much. This is not a student show but a showing of faculty work and as such, I would have thought that the bar would be set rather high. Perhaps not as high as a commercial gallery, but still...
Convening a Meeting of the Codgers' Club
I'm relieved to discover that I'm not the only old fart here.
I've seen stuff displayed in hoity-toity galleries that was embarrassing to look at: bespeckled with dust, damaged print surfaces, unclean glass, damaged frames, and sloppily cut or even soiled mats. Not talking here about the odd dust mote that finds its way to the underside of the glass--those are one of God's little pranks I think. Once I see that sort of slovenliness I'm inclined not to bother further with the work.
I have a similar complaint about work of subpar technical quality. It seems I am expected to look past flaws of exposure, development, focus, and composition to "see" the artist's meaning yada yada yada. Strip away the art-school photobabble, and you're left with dreck. I always thought that mastery of technique was a given, so that nothing could stand between the artist's vision and the viewer.
I think it's about an ethos of consistently striving to do one's best, an old-fashioned value that this codger thinks is in short supply nowadays. Craftsmanship shows pride in the work and respect for the viewer. Why should I bother with the work of a photographer who shows me no respect?
My God I am such a codger--or is it curmudgeon? maybe both....
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I guess I am amazed that someone who would go to the effort of taking the picture and then actually developing it and even printing it would not take the extra effort to properly present it. Way too much time invested not to get it right. Afterall, if you take the thing and like it enough to print it, it would only seem that you'd finish it off right with a presentation that compliments and further highlights, and will last long after you are outta here.
I get to pick up the first of about twenty pictures I had professionally mounted, matted and framed tomorrow. (She can do it cheaper than I can buy materials it seems.) My office has generously made their entire interior wall space available to fill with my pictures. Every time someone walks around this place they'll be looking at my work. I would be embarassed beyond words if I not only didn't have them properly mounted and framed, but I will place each one at the best spot possible around the office to take advantage of lighting and wall length. Now if I could only get them to buy them and hang them permanently
I totally agree. I have found that if I were to puchase non-archival mat board as opposed to my usual, I'd only save a few dollars per 100 boards purchased. Not that much in the grand scheme of things.
Originally Posted by naturephoto1
Besides, the archival boards, in general, just look better.
Searching my way to perplexion
One's DNA does not belong on one's prints.
I have shown my work in a number of venues and always only hang what I believe to be my best workt and I am meticulous about the details. I do it for me than for others as this is how I want my work presented. If I wanted boogers on it I would show it with boogers.
Showing this sloppy work is just like shopping at Walmart..most people just don't know the difference, any old crap will do. Do your best for you, not the audience and hopefully some of them will see...EC
Boogers under glass=Mixed Media!
Some might say I have a bad attitude! Too bad.