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    Dry mount tissure for fiber based prints

    I am using up my stock of Seal MT-5 and I understand that it is no longer available. I have used Colormount in the past and I don't like the flimsy structure of it. Also, it is more expensive. Has anyone tried the Arista dry mount tissue? How does it compare to the MT-5? Thanks.
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    You may find "Bienfang Buffermount" to be an acceptable substitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBrunner View Post
    You may find "Bienfang Buffermount" to be an acceptable substitute.
    Buffermount is the ONLY mounting tissue I would recommend. Acid free and reversible (at great pains) and uses wax as the adhesive not glue or polymer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeroldharter View Post
    Has anyone tried the Arista dry mount tissue? How does it compare to the MT-5? Thanks.
    I was really at a loss when MT-5 was discontinued, but I've been through a couple of packages of Arista and it has worked well. It adheres when cooling rather than when heating like the MT-5, so I got a pizza stone to weigh the print down flat (covered with a sheet of archival paper) after it comes out of the press. I've been quite successful with it thus far. Now Freestyle is offering a slightly more expensive tissue as well that bonds when heating. I'm debating whether to try it or not so I can't offer an opinion yet. Good luck.
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    I've been using Arista drymount tissue for years.

    The last batch I bought was distinctly different from early materials. Initially, it was a brownish glassine-like material. The newer version is a creamy white color and is much waxier. It is also perceptible thicker (sorry, I haven't actually measured the thickness).

    Both new old and new versions have worked very well for me. The only negative comment is that the waxier new material tends to bead up just a bit when it is first tacked in place. I haven't noticed that this causes any visible bumps in the surface of the mounted print, but it is a bit disconcerting to feel irregularities in the dry mount tissue.

    To John's point, I place the mounted print face down on a cool, flat counter top, and place a sheet of particleboard on top to weight it while it cools. A pizza stone would also work, but I would be concerned about getting mozzarella on the back of the print.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMfoto View Post
    Buffermount is the ONLY mounting tissue I would recommend.
    I have to agree.

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    Bienfang/Seal Fusion 4000 - works very well for Fiber Base.

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    I have used MT5, but now use Colormount and it works great.

    I've tried the new Arista and it was AWFUL! It was terrible thick, very gummy and messy, and would always cause my prints to very slight come back up around the edges, even when coldpressed afterwards. Because I'm also using single weight paper, the gummy bumps I would get from the tacking iron would show as bumps on the surface of the print.

    I do not suggest using the Arista.

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    I'm with Ryan. I have used Colormount for years with no problems at all. I don't know about it being "flimsy" but I have never had a problem with it. Colormount was also Ansel Adams' preferred mounting tissue but, of course, the other tissues mentioned here were not around in his time.

    However, since I have used it for so long, I am not familiar with too many other types. But I just now looked at my stock of dry-mount papers and was surprised to find that I have a few hundred sheets of MT5 in 11x14" size. I don't know when I got it or why. I am comparing my Colormount and MT5 tissues right now. They are almost identical in appearance except that MT5 is more translucent. If anything, the MT5 is flimsier than the Colormount tissues but the difference in appearance is slight. Well... I take that back..... I'm looking more carefully now and the MT5 most definitely is "flimsier" than Colormount. I'm not sure what you mean when you say Colormount is flimsy.

    In any case, I'm glad that you asked this question because I was just getting ready to order a 50 yd roll of 20" wide mounting tissue and I have never used some of the one's mentioned here. The responses are interesting. I had been wondering about Arista, for example. But I am hesitant to change when Colormount has always worked so beautifully for me. One thing that definitely does not appeal to me are the tissues that bond as they cool. That's a pain, IMO. I just take my prints mounted with colormount out of the press and they are done. I have never a bond fail. I don't know what more I could ask for.
    Last edited by ZoneIII; 01-30-2007 at 10:17 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Will Buffermount work on larger prints?

    I just 'cut & pasted' this from www.dickblick.com ;

    Buffermount PlusThis archival quality dry mounting tissue is for paper, delicate materials, and photographs. A removable adhesive, it activates at 175°F. It features acid-free tissue, buffered to prevent acidic migration on the substrate. It is also breathable. Use it for preservation applications, thin papers, rice paper, tissue paper, parchment, watercolors, silks, and other fabrics.

    ColormountThis permanent dry mounting tissue is especially formulated for photographs. It activates at 175-200°F. It is a porous tissue, versatile and breathable, which mounts to both non-porous and porous surfaces. Use if for color photos and slick posters.

    Fusion 4000 PlusGeneral purpose, solid form dry mounting adhesive, useful for fabrics and textured materials as well as paper. A removable adhesive, it activates at 170°F to form a solid adhesive. Buffermount Plus melts during heating and bonds during cooling. Use it for fabrics, textured materials, paper artwork, canvas, and puzzles.

    Are these descriptions accurate? I've used Colormount for some time now, but there's a big difference between, "This archival quality dry mounting tissue..." (Buffermount), "This permanent dry mounting tissue..."(Colormount), and "General purpose, solid form dry mounting adhesive..."(Fusion 4000).

    I've been using Colormount because I figured at larger print sizes (11x14 to 16x20), it would hold better than Buffermount which has a lower melting point. After reading, "This archival quality..." as opposed to, "This permanent..." I'm wondering if I made the right choice.

    Will Buffermount work on larger prints?

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