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    Time to purchase retouching dyes, seeking advice

    There must be 10 brands out there, enough to make my head spin. I'll need to spot mainly azo and vc fiber papers. Also, possibly some light neg retouching if needed. Any suggestions? thanks!

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    Good ol' Spotone and Veronica Cass dyes are what I use. Spotone you can get at plenty of photo suppliers and Veronica Cass at www.veronicacass.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb
    Good ol' Spotone and Veronica Cass dyes are what I use. Spotone you can get at plenty of photo suppliers and Veronica Cass at www.veronicacass.com.
    sounds good, what kit do I get? they seem to be for color prints?

    http://www.veronicacass.com/productCat47367.ctlg

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    For B&W from Veronica Cass start with this kit:

    http://www.veronicacass.com/item133293.ctlg

    For Azo/amidol/selenium, I find I can use the Mauve dye almost straight, maybe with a dab of Midnight blended in. One thing I like about these is that if you make a mistake, you can re-wash the print and they come out pretty cleanly.

    If you get Spotone dyes, just get the three-dye kit. I've never needed more than that.

    Are there really ten brands of retouching dyes? Spotone and VC seem to be hanging on by a thread. I've seen Kodak dyes, but I think they have stopped manufacturing them, and maybe Marshall's would be another possibility, but I've only used their photo oils.

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    I spent a week with Veronica Cass last year and she is a very small operation that sells mostly to large photo labs and professional retouchers. She has a classroom in her facility and teaches 10-15 people at a time. In my opinion her products are the best I've seen.

    I use mauve for almost everything and occasionally use midnight. For selenium and sepia toned prints I use browntone. Just order the 5 oz bottles seperately and they'll last a long time.

    On negatives I use only mauve.

    I use the wet/dry brush method and use the dyes undiluted, one drop/one drop of distilled water and one drop/two drops of distilled water.


    Hope this helps,


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    I thought that Spot Tone was gone and Marshall's took over production. Not sure where I got that impression.

    As I said in a previous post, I prefer to use plain old Sumi Ink on prints. Works great and a $5.00 stick would probably handle the spotting needs of all the APUGers (and their kids). I've never tried it on negs.
    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
    =Neal W.=

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    Kodak doesn't make that red stuff it had to spot negatives with anymore. About 6 months ago I won the bid on ebay for some Veronica Cass red. I now have two 8 oz. bottles of red spotting dye that are going to last even my grandchildren through their life time. Before that I used the paste form of red food coloring.

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    FWIW, Kodak does still have the Crocein Scarlet negative retouching dye in their catalog. The local store here still carries the 1oz bottle of powder, roughly enough for three generations of photographers.

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    RETOUCHING SUPPLIES
    KODAK Crocein Scarlet
    For use on negatives as retouching or dodging dye. Also for
    masking pinholes and scratches, opaquing large areas,
    lightening shadows, intensifying highlights, etc.
    • Red color identifies retouched areas
    CAT No.
    Size
    Price
    Per Unit
    146 3751 1-ounce bottle $24.15

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    Quote Originally Posted by clay
    FWIW, Kodak does still have the Crocein Scarlet negative retouching dye in their catalog. The local store here still carries the 1oz bottle of powder, roughly enough for three generations of photographers.
    This was straight from the head of USA sales for Kodak. I asked him directly about the red retouch product at the LF conf. It was deleted from their catolog in the last few months. I have his name and phone number if you want to query him direct.

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    does VC sell "the stick" of that stuff for pinholes?
    i have no idea what it is called, kind of looks like a cross between a tootsie roll and a crayon.

    i went to the VC site, and didn't see it

    john

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