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Old 07-21-2008, 01:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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It's been a while since I've posted a hot one, so here goes...

I have faith that Natures wisdom will prevail, even if that means there's no place for us humans. Knowing life will endure as long as it can, in whatever form, in any available environments and with all its intricately balanced interconnectedness, gives me peace of mind.

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Old 07-21-2008, 01:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I don't think there is anything inherently "wise" about nature, but it is adaptable. However, humans seem to be forcing nature into fall-back positions that could significantly change the evolutionary path of life, and that doesn't give me any peace of mind at all.
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I wouldn't object if nature decided to cull large number of humans. We have droughts and famine that keep the population at bay in areas where nature struggles to support them. There's just too many humans!

I like to believe there is an intelligence behind nature; every species has a survival mode programmed into them at birth...we are just too complex for it to have happened accidently.
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I like to believe there is an intelligence behind nature; every species has a survival mode programmed into them at birth...we are just too complex for it to have happened accidently.
From a philosophical point of view, the opposite is more likely - we are far too complex to have happened on purpose. The idea of intelligent design is more a matter of faith than science. And if one has faith, intelligence is superfluous for (or irrelevant to) the argument.

I know it is a figure of speech, but nature has no wisdom. I suppose life for life's sake is OK. Maybe something useful could evolve out of life if humans were no longer around. In the meantime, I am partial to humans.
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It's been a while since I've posted a hot one, so here goes...

I have faith that Natures wisdom will prevail, even if that means there's no place for us humans. Knowing life will endure as long as it can, in whatever form, in any available environments and with all its intricately balanced interconnectedness, gives me peace of mind.

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Well, that is certainly close to what Kurt Vonnegut came to believe later in his life. He viewed the situation as something akin to the earth preparing to ultimately "reject" human life, much like a person's antibodies reject a virus.

You might also want to check out the Gaia Theory. Some similarities to your hypothesis there as well.

http://www.gaiatheory.org/synopsis.htm
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Ahhhhhh! The trees have had it way too good for way too long.
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Nature doesn't care. Wisdom is a human concept, just like beauty. Neither exists in nature.
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From a philosophical point of view, the opposite is more likely - we are far too complex to have happened on purpose.
That statement makes the philosopher who thought it up look obtuse.

The day chance rules over design, is the day Las Vegas goes broke.

Of course then one of the leading scientific nut-jobs thinks we came from crystals, so maybe if you take some rhinestones and put them in a coconut and stir them all around....
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I've always found the town of Prypiat to be a great testament to nature's will and prevailing strength. In a place where we can't and no longer live, nature has thrived. It gives me hope for the earth's future, but Prypiat and Chernobyl give me little in regards our own future.
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