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    35mm Ilford HP5 has strange lines

    I just got a roll of 35mm HP5 processed from a local shop. When I reviewed the scanned images I noticed strange dark lines on them. They are not scratches. The film is not expired and has not been heated up so I thought I would post on here to see if anyone knows what happened. Not all of the exposures had the lines however. Here are some of the photos:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    Might want to drop the political bit.
    Huh?
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    Are they present as a white line on the film on a light table under a loupe? That might indicate an error in processing where the developer didn't evenly contact the roll. The other thought is your scanner if the white line is not present

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    Black fibers on your negatives or your scanner.

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    looks like the world's worst scanning job? how do the negatives look under a loupe?

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    For a start, there's dust all over them. If you paid for shop scans I'd be asking for some money back. Or if you scanned them yourself then it might be time to invest in some pecpads.
    #1 - is the black line diagonally across the whole thing what you're talking about, or a powerline? Nothing else wrong there but what looks like dust, same with #3 #4, and #6. Could also be emulsion scratches, look at them closely in good light to see.
    #2 looks like a long eposure of a point light source, and moved around a lot. There are also darkish lines horizontally across, is that the problem? I see a similar thing on #5. I've had that happen on my v750 with the betterscanning wetmount holder, if the holder is not aligned properly the light gets confused and you can scan weird dark/bright lines into it. Or they could also be dev issues, not agitated properly and/or insufficient developer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Croubie View Post
    For a start, there's dust all over them. If you paid for shop scans I'd be asking for some money back. Or if you scanned them yourself then it might be time to invest in some pecpads.
    #1 - is the black line diagonally across the whole thing what you're talking about, or a powerline? Nothing else wrong there but what looks like dust, same with #3 #4, and #6. Could also be emulsion scratches, look at them closely in good light to see.
    #2 looks like a long eposure of a point light source, and moved around a lot. There are also darkish lines horizontally across, is that the problem? I see a similar thing on #5. I've had that happen on my v750 with the betterscanning wetmount holder, if the holder is not aligned properly the light gets confused and you can scan weird dark/bright lines into it. Or they could also be dev issues, not agitated properly and/or insufficient developer.
    The dark lines all the way across the image are power lines. I did pay for them to get scanned (and developed, since school has been out I have had no were to develop my B&W photos). The lines seem to be on the negative. I would be pissed if this happened because they developed it wrong. Thanks for the help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatchetman View Post
    looks like the world's worst scanning job? how do the negatives look under a loupe?
    The lines are on the film. And if you look at image 2 and 5 they both have the same line in the bottom right.
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    You need to look at the film surface front and back with a magnifying lens and with glancing illumination.

    Might be helpful to know what camera you used as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmas View Post
    You need to look at the film surface front and back with a magnifying lens and with glancing illumination.

    Might be helpful to know what camera you used as well.
    Yes, the lines are on the film. I used a canon ae-1 with its original 50mm lens. The lens is flawless. I have used this camera for about 5 and a half months now and have never had this problem.
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