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    I have had this printed off for a few years, and it went a long way to helping me understand how the densitometer that was gifted to me can be used to the best effect.

    I now use the denisitometer all the time when calibrating the response of out of date film that gets into my hands more often than not. I shoot a test negative in a Bowens Illumitran to standardize the exposure side of the film response characterization work.

    If you want to extend your densitometrey beyond this Kodak offering for colour film work, I would suggest a mid 80's Koak publication called 'Copying and Duplication'.

    It gets you geared up to fine tuning the corrective colour filtering at exposure and the optimal effective exposure speed for accurate response from duplicating films and internegative films.

    The same techniques can be used to characterize the response of past date c-41 and e-6 films.

    I use these techniques of testing in situations like to see if the 100' can of bulk 35mm film I bought on a whim at a camera swap show for $5 is worthwhile loading onto cassettes and shooting.
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    Mike! if it's a mid 80's publication it's probably out of print. Is it possible to scan it?

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    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPorter View Post
    How so? Just curious.
    The main object of attention (the H&D curve) is hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chan Tran View Post
    Mike! if it's a mid 80's publication it's probably out of print. Is it possible to scan it?
    The link in the original posting still works. Have you tried it?

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    I believe the request for a scan from me, which I regrettably just came across less than a week ago when this thread sprang back to life, was for information from 'Copying and Duplication'.

    I have been busy hopping around on other projects, so the scan of the technical meat of densitometry found in that book has not floated to the top of my things to do list. So hear is the meat of the information from memory

    The gist of it was that you shoot a test frame with varying levels of pure grey from white to black. I have used a positive target found in an old Kodak darkroom databook. I have also used a positive test slide made by beselar sometime in the 70's or 80's that has something like a macbeth color chart in the slide. I suppose if you are missing these sources, you could just deliberately under and progressively over expose a shot of an evenly lit grey card.

    The goal is to get patches in a negative, or a series of negatives, that will show the black to white subjects are differing densities of grey in the negative.

    You take readings with the different colour filters of the denistometer, and plot them on log paper. I had old log one axis, linear second axis paper from earlier electrical engineering courses designing and testing cut off filters. There are web sites that let you specify what you want, and the site generates an image to print off with the scales to suit your data range.

    You are aiming to see that the negative density response is linear when plotted on the log scale, and that the different red, green and blue plots are a constant distance apart from each other. My first trials showed that I had too many values on the toe, and that the top end of the curve swept up, and that the spacing between the three traces wan not equal.

    Pass two was exposed with a stop more exposure, ie using a lower iso value to meter by, and my c-41 development used a bit less agitaion, and the developer was poured out a bit earlier so the stop went in at exactly 3:15. A plot of the red, green and blue filter values reading off the varying density of the grey patches showed that I had got the readings for the dark positive targets off of the toe, and into the linear range of the plot. The plot lines were also much more linear at the higher end. I just had the inter-plot spacings to iron out.

    Since the spacing are on the log axis I knew from reading the scale that I need to cut about .3 from green response.

    So I sifted though a stash of gelatine filter squares I have squirelled away, and found a 30cc green. It went into the optical path. In my case it wnet under the neg, to filter the colur of the light source, It just as well could have gone over the image making lens.

    Exposed the film on trial 3 , giving a tad more exposure to make up for the light loss of the 30cc green filter, and then processed with care. Read and plot pass 3, and I finally had the old 100' roll of expired but cold stored dupe film response dialled in.

    Plots between red, green and blue were evenly spaced, off of the toe, but just, and the white positive values ( densest negative values) stayed on the linear part of the response curve.
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