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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Burk View Post
    ...the Johnson's Exposure Disc?
    Somehow that just doesn't sound appropriate!
    Kick his ass, Sea Bass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinesh View Post
    Somehow that just doesn't sound appropriate!
    I was sitting on the bus to work playing with my Johnson... wait, that doesn't sound right either.

    Anyway, I was trying out different settings with the disc on the way to work and realised that all it was really doing was adding notches of movement when putting in the settings on one side and subtracting them from the other side so it didn't take long to work out a starting point working backwards from known sunny 16 settings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    I was sitting on the bus to work playing with my Johnson... wait, that doesn't sound right either.

    Anyway, I was trying out different settings with the disc on the way to work and realised that all it was really doing was adding notches of movement when putting in the settings on one side and subtracting them from the other side so it didn't take long to work out a starting point working backwards from known sunny 16 settings.


    Steve.
    As I finished setting up the camera, I realised I had left my exposure meter at home, so I whipped my Johnson out.....


    I have an old exposure calculator that sounds very much like the Johnson but isn't. I'll dig it up and post whatever it is. I've used it, and it works pretty well.

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    I find that sunny 16 gives very reliable results, but the actual advice to use f/16 seems geared toward slide film. I prefer to give more shadow exposure and deliberately prefer to expose up to 2 stops more than sunny 16 when I use negative film. If I was using transparency, though, I would use sunny 16.
    f/22 and be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterSense View Post
    I find that sunny 16 gives very reliable results, but the actual advice to use f/16 seems geared toward slide film. I prefer to give more shadow exposure and deliberately prefer to expose up to 2 stops more than sunny 16 when I use negative film. If I was using transparency, though, I would use sunny 16.
    I still say that an exposure meter is the best method, although sunny-16 and exposure guides can be useful and fun to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterSense View Post
    I find that sunny 16 gives very reliable results, but the actual advice to use f/16 seems geared toward slide film. I prefer to give more shadow exposure and deliberately prefer to expose up to 2 stops more than sunny 16 when I use negative film. If I was using transparency, though, I would use sunny 16.
    If I was using transparency, I'd be using a meter. 4x5 sheets are way too expensive. For that matter, so are 35mm frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    If I was using transparency, I'd be using a meter. 4x5 sheets are way too expensive. For that matter, so are 35mm frames.
    I agree the cost of a meter is soon recouped by the saving of unusable exposures on expensive and increasingly difficult to get film, the effort put in to taking the shots, and processing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benjiboy View Post
    I agree the cost of a meter is soon recouped by the saving of unusable exposures on expensive and increasingly difficult to get film, the effort put in to taking the shots, and processing them.
    When you look at what a top quality meter sells for nowadays, there really is no excuse to go without.

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    If I was using transparency, I'd be using a meter.
    Ok, go ahead and use a meter. And in sunlight, it's going to tell you to expose ... sunny 16 anyway.

    Meters are good for tricky lighting conditions, but most natural outdoor lighting situations (sunlight, clouds, gloom, etc) are not tricky. Once you know them, it becomes pretty pointless to meter. The sun hasn't changed in a few millennia. The real challenge is making the creative decision how to expose, which the meter won't help you with anyway.
    f/22 and be there.

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