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    LF: Applying Bellows Extention To Exposure

    I'm reading Stroebel's "View Camera Technique" and have come to understandings that I would like to confirm as valid.

    When shooting a subject greater than 10X the lens focal length (4x5 135mm = 5.1") a bellows extension factor must be applied to the camera exposure.

    EXAMPLE: With a 4x5 camera and a 135mm lens, a subject greater than 50 inches from the camera will need a factor applied to either/or combined shutter speed and apature to achieve expected negative exposure.

    BELLOWS FACTOR: From Ole Tjugen (oftjugen@online.no) on June 1, 2002.
    Bellows Extension Squared Divided by Lens Length Squared = Bellows factor.

    In the above example, a focused image of a subject longer than 51 inches from the film plane with a bellows 6 inches extended would require a bellows factor of 1.44 or one and one-half stop increase [(6X6) 36 / (5X5) 25] = 1.44 or 1-1/2.

    In your estimation are these understandings of mine correct?

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    Bruce,
    That looks correct, apart from the 'greater than 50 inches' bit. Shouldn't that be less than 50 inches? The example you give is correct in terms of the exposure factor - but a 5" lens that is 6" from the film plane will be focussed on an object about 36" (or thereabouts) from the film plane, not 51". However, if a 5.3" (135 mm) lens was 6" from the film plane, then the object would be about 52" from the film plane, but the bellows factor would then be 1.28 - not significantly different from 1.44.

    As you can see, the 10x rule roughly corresponds to a maximum error of 1/3 stop - a 'standard' limit on error - before applying the bellows factor.

    I hope this makes sense.

    Best,
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    Math isn't my forte, I use one of these http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...u=61584&is=REG
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    Brian, how does that thing work?

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    So, I think the "greats" were true to their visions, once their visions no longer sucked. Ralph Barker 12/2004

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    I use the $10 Calumet Exposure Calculator, #CC9201 , which consists of a small square target that is placed in the scene, and a little ruler used to measure it on the GG. Quick, easy, compact, and works with any format and focal length.
    [COLOR=SlateGray]"You can't depend on your eyes if your imagination is out of focus." -Mark Twain[/COLOR]

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    It is basically a ruler that has the exposure compensation marked for various lenses. Sine I am now only going to use one lens, I will most likely just mark it on the bed of my camera.
    hi!

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    I cheat. I have a meter (Minolta Flash III) that allows me to take readings directly off the ground glass.
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    I use this, http://www.salzgeber.at/disc/index.html . It's easy & free

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmac
    Math isn't my forte, I use one of these http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...u=61584&is=REG
    I've been looking for something like this, since my math skills seem to deteriorate in the field. Does it only work with 4 X 5?

    Cheers,

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    You can also use this:

    http://www.salzgeber.at/disc/
    Cheers!

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