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    Location and prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Noble View Post
    That 20% VAT exists for a reason. I've lived in the US and in Europe. I've budgeted in both. I've also had friends that came over and visited and were astonished by the cheap price of one thing or another. They sobered up a bit when I pointed out things like the cost of education and healthcare.

    Anyway England and Australia are islands. Not sure how much that factors into it. I know that on mainland Europe there are some deals to be had. A friend of my actually stocked up in Germany on Agfa APX. They picked up some HERE.
    I think you will find Australia is a continent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    What frustrates us is some items made in the UK are so cheap in the US and even allowing for shipping, import duties, then the 20% VAT all of which compound it's still cheaper to buy from the US.
    We are spared that particular indignity as Australia no longer manufactures anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Nielsen View Post
    I think you will find Australia is a continent...
    From the Australian government...

    The continent of Australia is referred to as an island because it is surrounded by ocean. However, Australia is actually made up of more than 8,000 islands, including the island state of Tasmania. As an island, Australia is a natural quarantine zone.
    I'm not Australian. Who am I to question the Australian government?

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    My last lot of Dexter Mat Cutter blades came from Eckersley's art supplies in Brisbane, Australia. Price out of the discount bin was $1 for a pack of 5 blades. I was overcome by acquisitiveness so I bought 5 packs. But I did not buy all they had.

    My latest encounter with price outrage was CR2032 button cells. From the local electronics store $4.31 each, from China via Ebay $0.179 ea. Someone is making a motza and I doubt that the Chinese are losing on the deal.
    Photography, the word itself, invented and defined by its author Sir John.F.W.Herschel, 14 March 1839 at the Royal Society, Somerset House, London. Quote "...Photography or the application of the Chemical rays of light to the purpose of pictorial representation,..". unquote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noble View Post
    How many people in the UK have $100K student loan bills at 22? How many people in the UK go into bankruptcy because they got cancer or were in a bad accident?

    The socialist safety net needs to be funded somehow. Personally I would gladly trade my student loan payments and health insurance payments for a 20% increase in the price of film. I know the socialist system doesn't explain all of it but you have to take a holistic look at expenses.
    That's your issue not ours, if you don't like it protest and get it changed. There's probably no other country in the world with such a disfunctional system of government who are so afraid to make the better off pay a decent level of tax in order to benefit the country as a whole.

    It has nothing to do with why prices in the US are so low compared to the rest of the world because even with the tax element added the differential is still large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    That's your issue not ours, if you don't like it protest and get it changed.
    I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply that US budget and tax policy was any Englishman's issue. I was just making a factual statement. Lower taxes often translate into reduced prices for the end consumer in a competitive environment. But that is not the whole story. There is no free lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maris View Post
    My last lot of Dexter Mat Cutter blades came from Eckersley's art supplies in Brisbane, Australia. Price out of the discount bin was $1 for a pack of 5 blades. I was overcome by acquisitiveness so I bought 5 packs. But I did not buy all they had.

    My latest encounter with price outrage was CR2032 button cells. From the local electronics store $4.31 each, from China via Ebay $0.179 ea. Someone is making a motza and I doubt that the Chinese are losing on the deal.

    What makes you sure that the Chinese made crap is more reliable than the real deal?
    I don't mind paying for the major brand name in batteries when the reputation is rock solid and proven. I spend $80 on lithium AA batteries for my EOS1N; I wouldn't dare put Chinee/grey market stuff in. Never take shortcuts with things like batteries when you could be left "dead in the water" at a critical time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noble View Post
    How many people in the UK have $100K student loan bills at 22?
    Since fees tripled last year, this will become common in the UK when the current generation of undergraduates complete their courses.

    16 years ago when I graduated all tuition fees were covered by the state, they provided a small grant to help with living costs, and the option to borrow more at 0% adjusted for inflation if required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    Ian, I should have added that the normal UK price for this item is £54 so more than 50% higherb than the UK Amazon price.

    What frustrates us is some items made in the UK are so cheap in the US and even allowing for shipping, import duties, then the 20% VAT all of which compound it's still cheaper to buy from the US. So much for free trade which was supposed to equalise market prices to a certain extent.

    So it's cheaper for me to buy Ilford films from the US and even with taxes I make a considerable saving.

    Ian
    Manufacturers price goods to the market., that's business, they are willing to make a reduced profit margin to attract large volume sales, it's the supermarket principal.
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    Talking about Loacation and prices I am alway shocked at how expensive Ilford Photopaper is here in Germany. The price is about 50-60% higher than in England. Only Ilford paper. The others are the same. When I need Ilford I let it get sent to me. But surely there something rotten here that someone somewhere is adding too much for his own profit.

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