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    Shipping equipment to another country

    I am checking into shipping my 5X7 gear to Italy and I wonder how those of you who have traveled have handled this.

    I think that if I ship it ahead that I may well incur customs charges. If I carry it on the plane with me then I will probably incur excess baggage charges. What and how do you guys that travel with LF do in this situation?

    Thanks for your help on this.
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    DHL to Europe is likely going to be more expensive than an excess baggage charge.

    I carry my equipment (cameras, lenses, film and often a laptop for non-photographic work on board; tripod, clothing, and empty filmholders checked) with me on the plane, and I've never run into an excess baggage charge, even with the 8x10" Gowland.

    I otherwise travel fairly light. I bring a couple of Ex-Officio shirts that are easy to wash in a hotel bathroom and dry quickly and similar pants. If I am short handed, I don't mind buying extra clothes while traveling, since I never have much time to shop for clothing at home. If I don't have any formal meetings requiring a jacket and tie and I'm not going someplace cold, I can often fit all my clothing in my tripod case (Tenba TTP 34), so all of my luggage is a carryon for the camera and a tripod case for the tripod and everything else. To keep things nice this way, lay them out flat, fold as necessary, and roll them and they won't wrinkle. If I need more stuff, I also carry a rolling bag which is maximum legal carryon size, but I check it.
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    Depending on your amount of "stuff", you might invest in a PeliCase to transport your gear in. "Fragiles" like camera and lenses go in the PeliCase as checked luggage, film in the carry-on.
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    If you're looking to save costs, than travel with as much as you can and ship the rest. No excess baggage costs and definitely less costly than shipping the whole thing.

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    I know what you mean Donald, I would rather ship my gear than put it in the baggage compartment. I can just imagine those baggage people playing with that expensive equipment. I carry on my equipment and only put the tripod in my suitcase. When it comes to larger cameras I too will be reading this thread and considering paying a huge sum for shipping my equipment.

    On a trip to Houston I did carry on a complete Kodak 2D in a laptop case, rolling type, and put the film holders and tripod etc. in the suitcase. A laptop case can hold a lot of gear and it is recognized as a laptop case and looks like the flight attendants rolling over night cases. This might be an option, put it in the over head and carry on the second personal bag to go under seat.

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    I've been investigating the latest TSA requirements -- Without citing specific documents, and from the top of my head:

    1. It is ADVISED that all film be hand-inspected (place the film in one-quart Zip-Lock bags) and carried on board -- they have recognized the harmful potential of X-Rays. Some (/all?) of the automatic X-Ray equipment used to screen (randomly?) checked baggage are considerably more powerful than those used on carry-on baggage.

    2. ALL checked baggage must be left unlocked. Whether TSA-approved locks are still acceptable - I couldn't quite determine. Generally (information from other travelers), the first response WILL be to break the lock - and they only serve to draw suspicion.

    3. Again it is ADVISED (in light of #2, above), that ALL valuables be carried on board. I have an aluminum case for my gear ... and I'm fairly sure that it meets "under-seat" dimensions. I will visit the Airport a couple of days before my flight to verify this and other sundry "stuff".

    4. I WILL obtain and complete "Certificate of Registration for Personal Effects Taken Abroad" Forms (CBP Form 4457 - Department of Homeland Security - U.S. Customs and Border Protection) for all my gear. These are invaluable when re-entering the U.S. - Proving that you owned all that stuff (Serial Number traceability) when you left to fly overseas - and that you do not have to pay duty as if they were bought over there.

    5. We will rent a car and drive (Copenhagen to North Oland and return). We have already obtained our International Driving Permits from AAA - recognized in MOST European (and elsewhere -with the glaring exception of the United States - ?!?!?).

    One of my first stops in Copenhagen will be Ida Davidsens - for Smorrebrod. I last visitied that restaurant in 1985...

    Damn!! - Hotels in Copenhagen are EXPENSIVE!!!
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    You guys make traveling overseas sound like such a pain in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Sukach View Post
    5. We will rent a car and drive (Copenhagen to North Oland and return). We have already obtained our International Driving Permits from AAA - recognized in MOST European (and elsewhere -with the glaring exception of the United States - ?!?!?).


    Why would you need an AAA issued IDP in the USA? You'd need one issued by a non USA body. So if you're saying the AAA issued IDP isn't valid in the USA that makes perfect sense.

    If you're making plane changes check the baggage limits for each leg. Some of those discount European airlines have baggage limits smaller then a lens cap. Even BA last month severely limited baggage. :rolleyes:

    Instead of paying for overweight why not buy film there? Or even some clothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Zentena View Post
    Why would you need an AAA issued IDP in the USA? You'd need one issued by a non USA body. So if you're saying the AAA issued IDP isn't valid in the USA that makes perfect sense.
    The International Driving Permit is issued by AAA in the United States ... and is valid elsewhere. I don't NEED it - and it is not recognized, therefore of no use - in the United States. Why? I don't know. Does that make sense? Not especially.

    If you're making plane changes check the baggage limits for each leg. Some of those discount European airlines have baggage limits smaller then a lens cap. Even BA last month severely limited baggage. :rolleyes:
    We're flying on Icelandair (Boston - Keflavik - Copenhagen). I don't forsee a problem ("two bags per passenger") but I will check.

    Instead of paying for overweight why not buy film there? Or even some clothing?
    From past experience, film is considerably more expensive in Europe, and there would be some sort of search involved to find 120 for the Hasselblads - and no guarantee I'll be able to find any particular film. Also, I'll be bringing exposed film back, with the same problems.

    ... And - I don't think I'll be anywhere near "overweight", as far as baggage allowances are concerned. I haven't been while flying in the U.S.

    Another thing to check.
    Carpe erratum!!

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    Well from what I have been able to determine, it looks like about a $220 charge for two additional bags on the flight compared to over $400 to ship them to Italy via UPS or Fed Ex. Excess valuation for the 5X7 gear will cost about $30 more (max liability is $1375--about 1/4 of the replacement value)

    I will opt for the insurance since my Halliburton (God I hate that name) case that I am using for the LF equipment will not fit in the overhead storage. (case dimensions are 8X18X21 and the OH storage is 10X14X36)
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