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    Come on Baby Light......

    Quote Originally Posted by jstraw View Post
    Yikes...what a clown. And THE FIRST FIVE WORDS from his website:

    "I prefer only natural light..."
    Fire is natural light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenM View Post
    That was Michael Fatali ....
    yeah, that's the guy.
    thanks for reminding me ...

    john
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    եթե դուք պետք է ինձ դիմեք ինձ միջոցով իմ կայքը կամ բլոգում

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    If I remember correctly there was magazine running an offer for some of those prints then pulled the offer because of the controversy.

    JB

    Quote Originally Posted by KenM View Post
    That was Michael Fatali, it was the Delicate Arch, he used a fire starter log, and he's an idiot.

    I would say he's more infamous than famous.

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    Hi all... First post.

    When "commercial" work is reffered to in regulations, what do they actually define commercial as? I know that after some recent trouble with candid portraiture here in Australia, some research was done that proved that Australian law defines commercial photography as the use of photographs or images for advertisments or any other official promotion of a product or service, meaning that even if I were to sell my images for a profit, this would not be defind as commercial work.

    Otherwise, I suppose that you (Gary892) took the option that you though was best. Sad that people can't even use slightly unsual equipment (Hell, my Canon AL-1 attracts attention, so I can only imagine what effect a 'Blad or Rolleiflex must have) for public photography.

    With my personality though, I would have argued the point with him.
    But I can't help myself in those situations. I'm far too confrontational.

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    Hasseled

    I've drug my 4X5 with tripod etc all over national parks with never a second glance from an offical. If anything they have gone out of their way to direct me to little known area's for some good shots.
    Conclusion: they were power drunk part timers and or just didn't like you.....kind of like the dog that is friendly to everyone but you.
    for what it is worth, I sat out on a street corner to get an evening shot of a new city hall around here that has absolutely stunning architecture. I had my tripod out with 4X5 and sat patiently for the sun to go down. I was passed by no less that 6 police cars and as far as I could tell they didn't even see me!
    When I am in Eastern Washington on the back roads of the wheat country with my setup out and ready often times the state patrol will drive by and ask if I need help as do the locals. my advice is go some place friendly.
    No escaping it!
    I must step on fallen leaves
    to take this path

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    So very sorry to be so late on Mr Goldfarbs request for my comment. Excuse: reformatted my hard drive back in March and kinda forgot to redo my bookmarks. Anyway, the Rangers who challenged you were wrong. If you are in the park, as a visitor, you can use a tripod to do your photography. You can even use some lighting or light modifiers. If it is not commercial. One of my collateral duties is monitoring permits for commercial still, video and film crews. They must have a permit as do workshops. When I am asked the same thing as the original poster was by Rangers in other parks, I show them a copy of the Directors Order. The last time I was asked, the Ranger got huffy, I showed her my DOI ID card and asked her to radio the District Ranger because I had a complaint and if they weren't available, the Chief Ranger. She did, and when the DR showed up, he chewed her out in her rig(I could hear it), then apologized to me for the hassle. Unless you KNOW you are in the right, I wouldn't try that one. Sorry for your hassle in DV and I will be more than happy to discuss this in a private message.

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    Interestingly long thread.

    I returned last month from a big driving vacation out in the Southwest, stopping at Big Bend NP, Ft. Davis(TX)SP, Guadalupe NP(TX), Carlsbad Caverns NP, Valley of Fires Nat. Rec. Area, Grand Canyon NP, Monument Valley NP(except it's "Navajo", not National), and Mesa Verde, NP. I lugged my Pentax 6x7 gear and a large Bogen Tripod around, and wasn't hassled once.
    Perhaps Ranger Bob's message got into the NP system.
    Perhaps we need to carry laminated copies of the up-to-date Director's Order attached to our vests, bags, or tripods.

    Best regards,

    John

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    It's been us vs. THEM, for as long as I've been alive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary892 View Post
    I have read all the responses up to this point and I need to shed some light why I did not argue with the ranger.
    I was told not too long ago by a NPS Ranger in Joshua Tree Nation Park, that if you get a ticket on National Park Land that ticket stays with you forever. So if you ever get stopped by any police officer it shows up as a federal alert. I have no way of checking to see if that is true or not because I know no one I trust who can confirm that.

    Secondly, when I was 22 I am now 56, I was traveling through Texas, nothing against Texas it's just where this happened, I was pulled over for speeding. Yes I was speeding 10 miles over the speed limit. The officer escorted me back to a house that turned out to be the Judge's house and I was charged right then and there. The "Bail" if you will, was $22.50. At that time that was a lot of money to me. Fortunately I had enough money to pay and they let me leave. The judge even gave me a receipt.

    Since that day, I have a level of distrust of anyone who has the power to throw me in jail justified or not. So I never confront an officer or a park ranger.
    Or to any other LITTLE SHIT, that comes along.
    This person, has it exactly right. It doesn't do you any good, to prove THEM wrong,
    that just makes THEM mad.

    In other words, in your mind, just say " Heil Hitler ", & do what ever the " Little Hitler " tells you to do.

    This isn't anything recent.
    It's been us vs. THEM, for as long as I've been alive & I'm 54 now.

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