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    There are definitely fine lines between the acceptable and not-acceptable. I personally prefer to submit an image from a transparency scan, rather than a scan of a print - much higher quality. However, I only try to make the scan look like the original transparency.
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    Starting to sound like Photo.net around here.
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    So, I think the "greats" were true to their visions, once their visions no longer sucked. Ralph Barker 12/2004

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    "Acceptable" -- feh

    "Recommended" -- good. With fields to describe process, and RECOMMENDATIONS that all manipulations be clearly described.

    Make APUG about love (of analog) not war (against something else).

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    How many people are actually doing this? Is it more than one person? Is it more than 5? Are these people new to the site? What was their reasoning?

    I haven't read the entire thread so these questions may have been answered but I was just curious as to whether this was an epidemic worthy of a thread or was it just one or two people with a reason that can be dealt with personally by Sean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flotsam
    I'm sorry but this comparison utterly escapes me.
    Scenario A) I lug my 8x10 with 4x5 reducing back out to the beach, take a few shots, come home and hand process my film. Take a negative and scan it. Adjust contrast, etc., then post it here. Some same this is wrong, and doesnt belong on APUG.

    Scenario B) Joe Blow goes out "photographing" has his 35mm in idiot mode. Takes his film to the teenage pimple face at the local drugstore, gets 4x6 prints of them. Gets home and scans the 4x6 & posts it here. Some say there is nothign wrong with doing it this way.

    I think both are fine, and don't forget, there are very few minilabs that arent actually digital now. the 16 year old tech at the 1hr is just feeding your film into a machine that processes it, and then feeding it into another machine that scans adjusts and prints it.

    I'm sorry if it comparison utterly escapes you.
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    I don't have an issue with scans from prints or slides as long as the work done in PS is to overcome any shortcomings of the scanner (e.g. to make it appear on screen as it does in real life).

    I have no problem with scans from negs as long as the only manipulation is the inversion and level balancing and it is made plain that this is a proof. We can't all always get into the darkroom so I would regard this as a 'necessary "evil"'. (I appreciate this is not necessarily a consistant view. Sue me! <g>)

    Desaturating a colour image is (IMO) way, way over the line and, for this site, well into "extracting the Michael" territory. (Purely my opinion; free and worth every penny!)

    Sean, I'd go with the gallery statement. If you start creating new galleries for every conceivable shade of grey you'll have no time for more important matters (i.e. pretty much everything!).

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    I agree that there is a fine line between acceptable and not acceptable. Desaturating a colour image is over the line from my perspective. Even more over the line is using filters like Gaussian Blur and we have a beautiful image in the standard gallery as we speak that has been filtered in PS.

    My vote is for "the gallery statement" to ensure that the spirit of analog is maintained. I'm sure most postings that breach the spirit at the moment happen because the poster does not realise where that line is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roteague
    I personally prefer to submit an image from a transparency scan, rather than a scan of a print - much higher quality. However, I only try to make the scan look like the original ....
    I scan from the print. Sometimes it takes so much work just to get it to match the print, it's ridiculous. I am sometimes guilty of doing some "electronic" dodging and burning, and "goosing" the contrast. That can be a 5 minute job, or several hours just by itself. Sometimes I just say to hell with it and move on.

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