My take on it?
It's the same person who sees my D800 and says, "Wow, I bet you get really good pictures with that" that would chime in and say, "Wow, is that a film camera? stuck in the past huh..."
This person is one who is into cameras, not photography and there is a big difference. I always love to reply "I'm sorry, but it is just a camera, the photos don't happen until an actual person with a creative approach to seeing the world picks it up and uses it." Then I get the "So you don't think the camera matters much? or "So you still think film is better?" And then I say, no, that has nothing to do with if you are an actual photographer with talent or just one of millions of people who think they are just because they own a camera.
I often find when someone makes fun of or otherwise bashes a photographic medium it is because they lack talent or are intimidated by the notion you are not going along the same path as millions of other people. Real photographers never do this, they appreciate the final image, the personal story behind it, not the damn gear or what film you used...
"I'm the freak that shoots film. God bless the freaks!" ~ Mainecoonmaniac ~
Hmm, "raw talent" .... only going to get so "good" ....
Originally Posted by PKM-25
Don't kid yourself, "my friend." "Raw talent" is about as meaningful as "good taste." And you usually don't hear about either except from the people who claim to have it.
I once had raw talent... but I burned it to charcoal with too high of an attitude setting. I settle for medium talent these days and am happy when it reaches medium well.
Add to the list "common sense" which is not all that common.
Originally Posted by jglass
A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral.
~Antoine de Saint-Exupery
I think I gave the wrong impression when I said that having a good eye isn't important.
Originally Posted by PKM-25
The term "eye" is often used as a cliché meaning "somebody can see a good picture." I see that as separate from talent or technical ability.
Yes, you need to have an "eye" to be able to "see" a good photograph but it is the talent to be able to translate your vision into something the viewer can respond to and the technical ability to get that vision onto film and, ultimately, into a print which makes you a good photographer. "Eye" is only one third of the process.
Have you ever been walking on the beach, looking at a sunset when somebody says, "Wow, I wish I had a camera! That would make a great picture!" That person might have a good eye but that's not the half of it.
A good photographer might think, "That's nice but I want to get this jetty into the foreground to add depth and interest." He is also probably thinking something like, "I need to change my exposure by two stops and I need to consider developing a for a little less time and, maybe, I want to throw a filter over the lens, etc., etc."
It takes "eye" and talent and skill to be a good photographer. That's what I meant when I said that having a good eye isn't so important.
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I have two places I can bring my 35mm film. They send it to a central developing and printing factory. The stores don't have the actual developing machine. Actually, over here in Holland it's easier to have it developed and printed, than to do it yourself. Chemicals are hard to come by.
Originally Posted by Moopheus
Originally Posted by Worker 11811
When I was young I thought I had a good artistic eye, some raw talent, and reasonable intelligence. And I did. These things aided my ability to create decent images... images long gone after many years of losses.
While I still recognize these points I can't help but feel a bit of arrogance among us. As my body and mind deteriorate I truly wish those, with their "special gifts", would open their minds a bit.
Closed-mindedness and arrogance can be a very dangerous thing.....
Originally Posted by Old-N-Feeble
You should draw with that charcoal
Bachelor of Fine Arts and Bachelor of Arts: Journalism - University of Arkansas 2014
Canon A-1, Canon AE-1, Canon Canonet GIII 17, Argus 21, Rolleicord Va, Mamiya RB67, Voigtländer Bessa
My charcoal is long gone.
Originally Posted by Darkroom317